coolbluelb Posted May 27, 2004 Author Share Posted May 27, 2004 It is ok if the car gets loud when you really put your foot in it, so long as it doesn't sound too far from stock during normal driving. A stock look is good too. My humble opinion anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I'm keeping a single high-flow cat. I appreciate the environment and lesser noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I'm not concerned with the environment. The end is near. That's why I'm buying the most expensive Legacy I can get my hands on. They'll never see their money anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zevil Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 [quote name='jedimaster']I dunno man- I'm leaving the cats in this car- the WRX is too loud.[/quote] More like my WRX stinks :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zevil Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 [quote name='SUBE555']I'm keeping a single high-flow cat. I appreciate the environment and lesser noise.[/quote] yeah, I feel guilty when I drive my catless WRX.. I wish I would have left one high flow in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 [quote name='jedimaster']I'm not concerned with the environment. The end is near. That's why I'm buying the most expensive Legacy I can get my hands on. They'll never see their money anyway.[/quote] I don't feel bad at all. There are always people with 3 cats to cancel me out. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 You could blow up a Cadillac Escalade to even the score. I bet that a catless WRX would have the same or maybe less emissions than an Escalade does stock.. -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBY Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 [quote name='Drift Monkey'][quote name='jedimaster']I'm not concerned with the environment. The end is near. That's why I'm buying the most expensive Legacy I can get my hands on. They'll never see their money anyway.[/quote] I don't feel bad at all. There are always people with 3 cats to cancel me out. :lol:[/quote] That's me Drift, I feel bad enough that my car only gets 25 mpg, call me a tree hugger if you like but big hulking SUV's are pointless piles of shite. This whole US freedom of choice on what vehicle you drive is BS also, we don't have the right to plunder the world's resources and pollute it's atmosphere, 12 mpg SUV's are unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 How about 7mpg Hummer H2's that weigh 6000+lbs and get tax incentives and credits? I absolutely agree Gumby. Guess I'm just trying to look at what we'll be handing our kids, grandchildren and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBY Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Sube, check [url]http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=525198[/url] this out, an article in a highly regarded London newspaper actually the one I read daily during the 4 years I lived there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Very interesting not only for myself, but for others as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 [quote name='jedimaster']I'm not concerned with the environment. The end is near. That's why I'm buying the most expensive Legacy I can get my hands on. They'll never see their money anyway.[/quote] Wow...I'm officially floored. My official stance (which won't surprise anyone) on gutting or removing cats is a) why, the car is plenty fast enough and b) we ALL have to do our parts for the environment, however small that part might be. This happened with the WRX, where people, following the rumor that a catless WRX would gain "50 horsepower, dude" were pulling cats, only to find that the car really wasn't that much faster. Some advice might be to do what I did, which is to talk to some guys at a performance exhaust shop. I did. They pulled the third cat section on the WRX, just to see what it was about, and said something to the tune of "Wow...this is 95% of a high-flow racing cat. Cool." Further, the Legacy has only two cats, rather than the three of the WRX (no up-pipe cat). As usual, it's just my .02, and I know it's really cool to think about yourself and not anyone else, but that just isn't my style. Oh, an Escalade might burn a lot of fuel, but it burns pretty cleanly. All contemporary cars do, even if they aren't LEVs like a stock WRX. Grandma will sign off now, with one final suggestion. If you want to make your cars faster, make the driver faster. Skip Barber offers some most excellent driving and racing courses that, having done them, I would highly recommend. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjapan Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 I would like to note that as the computers and O2 sensors get better and better, the chances of doing minor modifications and making more power are going to lessen and lessen. Removing/gutting a cat falls under that heading quite often on the newer vehicles. Cheers, Paul Hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 That's why the ECU has to be tuned for nearly any modifications on the WRX already. They learn. BTW, I was under the impression the pre-turbo cat was still there in the new GT unlike the STi. The FXT I believe still has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 Just for reference (if you don't take the tapered laminar flow into account), you'd want to keep a near-equal piping ID area such as area of 3" piping (if it were true 3" internal) = 7.07in^2. Divide by two = 3.035". Therefore each pipe rear of the split should be about 2.12" -> estimate that slightly larger (or if using a tapered system, which would actually work alright back there at 2" ID. Talking pipes and area of flow can be a rather confusing matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady_bunch Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 [quote name='jedimaster']I'm not concerned with the environment. The end is near. That's why I'm buying the most expensive Legacy I can get my hands on. They'll never see their money anyway.[/quote] Didn't you get the memo? The end has been postponed until 2030. [quote name='Drift Monkey']It'll probably be a while before any tuners offer reflashes now. The only problem I forsee is the wait![/quote] What exactly is involved in a "reflash"? Is that something I can do with my laptop and a cable or do I have to take it into a shop for a "tuner" to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 [quote name='brady_bunch'][quote name='Drift Monkey']It'll probably be a while before any tuners offer reflashes now. The only problem I forsee is the wait![/quote] What exactly is involved in a "reflash"? Is that something I can do with my laptop and a cable or do I have to take it into a shop for a "tuner" to do?[/quote] CobbTuning will likely have an accessport for the Legacy, and all that involves is you picking the stage and a few parameters and flashing it with a hand-held device. Another type of reflashe are UTEC centered. This usually requires a tuner to tune your car according to it's modifications and desire outputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Two words: SIDE PIPES :D Keefe Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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