looking at a LGT or G35x

[Smash1657615161]

Looking to get a 05 LGT or a 04 G35x.

 

I live in chicago, snow city. I like auto and 4 doors. I like to try AWD. I like to go a little fast. All the reasons why i'm looking at a LGT.

 

I've test driven both and i like them both. Honestly cant choose. Both seem to fit my needs one way or the other. I'm not a hardcore mod-er or anything like that. I like a nice quiet car to cat-backs unwanted. Plans for LGT would be down pipe/ AP and maybe up-pipe. Up pipe is pending once i find out how both pipes are going to be combined. I dont think their is anything else that is "best bang for the buck". the g35 is just going to get a z tube and 5/16 plenum spacer. i think combined they should be good for 10-15 whp if that.

 

Now me i'm a highway cruiser type of guy. I like cruising at night at 70mph in a quiet car and having that extra power to pass up a car or 2. my maxima does that do that exactly, more like 50-55.

 

I know there are a couple of former G owners here. A lot of them listed what they like about the LGT but not too many listed why they got the g35 first, or the reasons why they liked it. Anything they missed about it. Brand new these cars aren't that comparible due to price. but at this price point both cars can be had for 17-18k with 50k miles or less.

[HansGT]

All in all LGT.

 

For high speed passing G35 over a stock LGT. When I drove the G, I didn't like the inside...dash and controls seemed to be in odd locations. Wasn't impressed for the price tag.

 

Check out JediPimp...he's selling his LGT for a good price.

[Smash1657615161]

jedi's has a nice price.

 

problem is its a manual and tan interior. i extremely dislike tan interior with how it reacts to snow/slush and etc. It has to be a auto because i'll only be driving it 75% of the time. plus i already have a manual car to drive around on the weekends. This is mainly a daily driver. I work 3rd shift so i cruise to work at night but i drive home thru rush hour traffic.

 

 

is the g35x a lot more noticable in highway passing? The only think i didn't like was the orange glow. everything is normal to me, probaly because i owned a couple of nissan's

[HansGT]

^ I think the V6 will be there for you more often than the stock LGT on the highway above 70mph. You need to have your boost up for that extra kick. With a NA V6 it's gonna be a bit easier. But if you plan on those mods you mentioned then the LGT will edge out the G. Either way...I don't think its a big enough of a deal breaker with either car. For me its the look and driving experience that give the nod to the LGT.

[Smash1657615161]

if i do get the LGT for a fact i will get the AP and 3-6 months later the downpipe. those are the given. the up-pipe i've read helps out but i think it hads a lot more noise combined with a down. with everything else remaining stock. I love the LGT interior a lot more. white/red flows very nice. gauges are sexy. the front end looks nice but the rear isn't working for me. Where as i like the entire exterior of the g35.

 

the mods i think will bring both these cars closer together. a stock lgt makes 190whp or so. the mods can/should get me 220whp. g35x has 260 stock so roughtly 200whp the mods i want to do should bring me to 210whp. Just the turbo should take a little longer to kick in. turbo+ auto longer lag time.

[Skibum4444]

The G35 will be way quieter that the LGT on the freeway. Also the brakes on the G35 are awesome. They are the best stock brakes I've driven on (except my Dad's 2008 SL550 with AMG Brakes).

[HansGT]

if i do get the LGT for a fact i will get the AP and 3-6 months later the downpipe. those are the given. the up-pipe i've read helps out but i think it hads a lot more noise combined with a down. with everything else remaining stock. I love the LGT interior a lot more. white/red flows very nice. gauges are sexy. the front end looks nice but the rear isn't working for me. Where as i like the entire exterior of the g35.

 

the mods i think will bring both these cars closer together. a stock lgt makes 190whp or so. the mods can/should get me 220whp. g35x has 260 stock so roughtly 200whp the mods i want to do should bring me to 210whp. Just the turbo should take a little longer to kick in. turbo+ auto longer lag time.

 

Stage 2 LGT your looking at 230-240whp. Plus you'll also have more torque than the G35 and weigh about 300lbs. less. Figure 10hp loss for each additional 100lbs....so its more like the G is starting with 230 crank in comparison pound for pound.

 

About "kick in" you'll hit full boost/torque at @3200-3400 RPM. The G being NA builds linear...RPMs have to climb high to hit full torque and full hp. Take a look at any dyno. LGT torque hits much lower, but tapers off while HP goes up. You'll just have to drive them again to feel which type of power building you like.

[HansGT]

The G35 will be way quieter that the LGT on the freeway. Also the brakes on the G35 are awesome. They are the best stock brakes I've driven on (except my Dad's 2008 SL550 with AMG Brakes).

 

LGT stock pads suck.

 

Add Hawk HPS and Motul fluid ($200) makes a big difference.

[naimouasta]

The G35 will be way quieter that the LGT on the freeway. Also the brakes on the G35 are awesome. They are the best stock brakes I've driven on (except my Dad's 2008 SL550 with AMG Brakes).

 

i've ridden in a G35 and i doubt its so much more quiet. according to road and track the g35x is 67dB @ 50mph and 72dB @ 70mph. the legacy gt is 70dB @ 50mph and 72dB @ 70mph. not much different. i've also liked the g35 myself but i just can't get over the how much the dash sucks (07+ ones are nice). also i dont know if it makes much of a difference for you guys but the g35x is about 300lbs heavier then the legacy. and both are also gas guzzlers but driven in the same manner i'm sure the GT would be slightly better.

 

heres a link for the road and track data comparing awd sport sedans.

 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/download/0603_awd_data_panel.pdf

[Bbc84]

Stage 2 LGT your looking at 230-240whp. Plus you'll also have more torque than the G35 and weigh about 300lbs. less. Figure 10hp loss for each additional 100lbs....so its more like the G is starting with 230 crank in comparison pound for pound.

 

About "kick in" you'll hit full boost/torque at @3200-3400 RPM. The G being NA builds linear...RPMs have to climb high to hit full torque and full hp. Take a look at any dyno. LGT torque hits much lower, but tapers off while HP goes up. You'll just have to drive them again to feel which type of power building you like.

 

 

I dynoed my stock 08' LGT vs my friend's stock 07' G35X both of us had about 5k miles when we dynoed. I put down 220whp/251wtq, and he put down 230whp/200wtq. So I dont think the g35x has the power advantage over legacys. But I do have a 5mt, and he has a 5eat since the X only comes in auto. So thats probably why it killed his crank rated 306hp/268tq.

[tdoggydog]

Funny - I was just having a bit of buyer's remorse wondering if I should've paid a few extra k and gotten an '08 G35x. The things I would've loved were more hp, Bluetooth, and hard drive to control music from the dash. Oh well - perhaps when the Leggy dies...

[Legacy_GT_Pilot]

No one has made mention of the AWD systems on both cars. The LGT is AWD 100% of the time. The G35x is AWD from 0-17kph (IIRC) and then shifts to a predominantly RWD vehicle (until slippage is detected). Dramatically different.

 

I had a 3.5L Maxima before owning the LGT, and the LGT was a jump up in performance everywhere. I found the LGT faster for passing on the highway as well. Have not driven the G35x though.

 

Dave

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Scientology dicussion

[PhillyWilly]

if you put the snow button on the g35x is 100% AWD.

 

my girlfriend has an 04 g35x. it definitely feels like a better built vehicle and offers more comfort. i actually like her interior more. its much roomier and the seats are more comfortable. i especially love the larger arm rest. wish lgt's was as big. she recently had an 07 while hers was getting work. 07s are much nicer.

 

LGT wins for modability and performance tho! a little better on gas too, depending on how you drive it.

[tdoggydog]

I have to admit, I didn't realize before coming on this board that all AWD systems are not created equally. That's cool that the G35x has a "snow" button - I'll have to check that out on their website.

[idontknow]

Yeah, the G's brakes are great. Especially when you have to replace them every 20K miles. This is what really X'd the G off my shopping list. Check out Edmunds review section for the G35X and read what the owners have to say about it. Plus, Consumer Reports gives it a big black dot on brakes.

[Smash1657615161]

changing brakes every 20k doesn't matter too much. Pads take less then an hour to do.

 

I'm a pretty strong DIY type of guy. Only thing i probaly won't do is a timing belt because i've always ended up taking too long to do them as i'm trying to get everything prefect.

 

 

 

 

anyone know which car actually had a bigger interior space? from the drivers seat the G was a little more roomy. but then again it could of been the seat.

[Smash1657615161]

a little update.

 

its been a couple of months now. i've test driven plenty of g35x and g35 RWD. i haven't gotten my hands on a LGT 5eat yet. Hopefully tomorrow will change. first LGT limited sedan limited i found that didn't have a tan interior.

 

My requirements still remain roughly the same. Need a AWD, AUTO, sedan sub 20k welll now my price has drop to about 18k OTD ( 16.5k price tag+ 1600 for tax+ 500 plates and etc )

 

 

I still drive the way i drive, 70mph cruise on the highway with little traffic. I've been price haggling people everywhere. I had my chance at a 04 g35x loaded with navi blk on blk for 16k OTD but when i came back with a down the car had been sold to a female for the sticker price...18k+ TTL ...

[LNeilB]

I spent yesterday test driving a number of cars - Audi, Infinity, Jag, and back to Subaru.

 

I drove an 04 G35x - not because I want to buy an 04. I'd buy an 06 or newer, but in Vermont there are none around to drive. I thought the 04 would give me the general flavor.

 

It's a nice car with a few flaws (04). The interior is just odd. Hard plastics where I did not expect them, gauges blocked by hands on the steering wheel, seats are just a tad narrow - I am 6'1" 200 lbs. The seat mounted controls are flat out stupid. The steering wheel looks like it came from a 1980's GM car (minus the mounted radio and other controls).

 

The headrests make you lean far back before your head touches them. I have the same gripe about my 05 LGT. Want a decent headrest? Try an Audi or a VW with tilting headrests. My Passat was great in that regard.

 

Power delivery is good and snappy. I'm sure my LGT is quicker 0-60, but from there it feels closer.

 

Ride and handling are the big difference. The G is more compliant, with less feedback. I thought I would hate that, but my feelings are mixed since the roads in Vermont are beat to hell now and my LGT wants to knock my fillings out over moderate road imperfections.

 

So I finished the day at Subaru, tried the new WRX. While the hardcore drivers bemoan the body roll, once you get used to it you realize the handling is still quite good, and the ride is much kinder over potholes and bumps. I quite liked the WRX, but damn did it feel much slower than my 5spd LGT. And there is slightly less feedback than the LGT, as you would expect from a kinder/softer suspension setup.

 

It really is necessary to drive both cars, and I have no doubt that I'd be happy with an 07 G35x, but I buy used with around 20k miles, and the 07G35x will cost me 7k more than an 06 LGT.

 

I don't like the G 7k more, and I love the LGT enough to live with the slightly rougher ride. It's is also cheaper to drive. Better mileage, cheaper parts.

 

That's my lengthy .02

[Long Island Legacy]

Okay pretty much all of my friends have had at one point a g35x, g35 coupe 6 speed,g35 sedan 6 speed Rev up 298Hp stock,and all in all the best ones at there 05,06 6 speeds. One friend had a 04 g35x with the Kintex upper plenum stillien intake with z tube,grounding gear, full stillen exhaust helix test pipes and headers and still only put down 231whp and 230wtq on a mustang dyno, with no ecu reflash. The G35 is a great car but the legacy hands down is amazing.

 

For some reason the VQ is a delicate motor. 2 of my freinds blow theres because of oil pump failure. If you do get a g keep on top of your oil and dont stretch oil changes.

 

PS here is a video with the 04 g35x in it. There is a clip of it on

the dyno,so you can get a good sound byte.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3OmQvVY_h8]YouTube - Burning Rubber[/ame]

[Throttlejockey]

Okay pretty much all of my friends have had at one point a g35x, g35 coupe 6 speed,g35 sedan 6 speed Rev up 298Hp stock,and all in all the best ones at there 05,06 6 speeds. One friend had a 04 g35x with the Kintex upper plenum stillien intake with z tube,grounding gear, full stillen exhaust helix test pipes and headers and still only put down 231whp and 230wtq on a mustang dyno, with no ecu reflash. The G35 is a great car but the legacy hands down is amazing.

 

For some reason the VQ is a delicate motor. 2 of my freinds blow theres because of oil pump failure. If you do get a g keep on top of your oil and dont stretch oil changes.

 

PS here is a video with the 04 g35x in it. There is a clip of it on

the dyno,so you can get a good sound byte.

 

How many of those cars do you think are still running? (crashed/blown up)

 

FWIW, I test drove an 04 and 06 used G35X and they ride like a truck on rough roads. LGT has way better ride.

[Smash1657615161]

i've still yet to drive a LGT, too many issues and its a little bit of a drive on the other side of town. My only regret would be that the LGT would have to be auto because i'll have a couple of other family members drive it from time to time.

 

an auto LGT to me just kinda means damaging something as with any type of car modding, nothing can be foreseen, like i said my thoughts of mods on the LGT in order would idealy be, drop on springs/struts, tint, AP stage 1 and then up and down. but seems like i MIGHT ( most likely) need a valve body to keep the car from slipping and to save my trans.

 

the g35x, would ideally go as springs/strut, tint, plenum spacer, z tube, 05+ mid-pipe for a little growl. the rest is just going to be spent on audio/video and looks.

 

looking at the point of view the g35 will be a crusier car and the LGT will be a little speeder car. the market in chicago is flooded with g35's and not so many LGT's. with all the given mods i think the g35x might be more relible after all the mods are said and done. stock wise both cars should be on par with each others but after the mods i want to do... g35 has a better chance of hitting 150k+

 

i agree the g35 can be made a lot better, seat controls are dumb, when i first got in i thought they were for windows. mirror adjustments are WOW... DUMB DUMB. car feel great in terms of power. and the seats fit me, doesn't huge or keep me exactly in place like a TSX/TL seat but goes what it needs to be. being 6'0 170lbs.

[Bbc84]

everyone and their mom drives a g35 in Naperville, IL. I see TONS of them everyday. I see maybe 1 Legacy once a week.

[Long Island Legacy]

How many of those cars do you think are still running? (crashed/blown up)

 

FWIW, I test drove an 04 and 06 used G35X and they ride like a truck on rough roads. LGT has way better ride.

 

My friends 1st g35x

Traded in early on lease with headers still on car

2nd 2006 g35 6mt sedan

Crashed in the snow Late 2007

[Long Island Legacy]

My friends 1st g35x

Traded in early on lease with headers still on car

2nd 2006 g35 6mt sedan

Crashed in the snow Late 2007

 

Forgot to mention that the motor in the 06 g35 threw a rod on a certain ocean road around where i live. Cause was oil pump failure 9,000 and a new motor car is crashed less then a month after.

[Limeydriver]

My wife has an 08 G35X Auto, it is a great car except:-

- Sat Nav cannot be programmed with vehicle moving. So a passenger can't work it.

- Brakes strong but a little over sensitive

- Throttle tip in a little harsh. Difficult car to drive smoothly

- Only a 5 speed auto needs a 6 speed

- Drinks Gas. 18 around town. Maybe 20-21 on the highway.

But it is well screwed together and has an amazing engine.

I would think the 6 speed is a blast.

 

Having said all that I would probably get a Spec B instead.