x02 FMIC baseball kit

[kmarajh]

I was browsing Ebay and looking at the X02 racing FMIC kit for the LGT, I'm pretty sure I'm seeing correctly but what is the baseball bat doing under the hood?

forgive me if this has already been addressed but I just saw it

thanks

[Boostjunkie]

You need the bat to make the piping fit

[lookslikeanevo]

it was a temp fix...search for the thread and read the WHOLE thread...it explains it self

[Infamous1]

Yes see the group buy thread, I am seeing excellent results with the kit.

[lawl]

because it is an FMIC, the awesomeness requires that the trunk monkey be relocated to the engine hood (to protect the FMIC, turbo, etc). the bat belongs to the monkey.

[GTWILLY]

LOL yes!! The trunk monkey is awsome. I thought the bat was to beat the ducks away that flock to your car from the special BOV.

[korpsepatrol]

I flippin love the trunk monkey. I love how he goes the extra mile and dumps the body off into the river.

 

Are there any fmic's that do not delete the fogs?

[camber]

AVO doesn't delete fogs and neither will the upcoming Cobb.

 

I think their are a couple more that can be modified slightly, to keep your fogs.

[Infamous1]

Are there any fmic's that do not delete the fogs?

AVO, WBR and Perrin all claim to keep the stock fogs.

[Boostjunkie]

All LGT FMIC's keep the fogs except for the X02, probably because all the other FMIC were actually made for the LGT instead of being a WRX/STi kit adapted for use on an LGT.

[Infamous1]

All LGT FMIC's keep the fogs except for the X02, probably because all the other FMIC were actually made for the LGT instead of being a WRX/STi kit adapted for use on an LGT.

Yep and they all cost as if they were designed for it as well...

[Boostjunkie]

Whether someone wants to pay more for a better fitting and more cleanly executed kit is entirely up to them. Some will find value in a few hundred bucks more for a kit that requires less effort to get fully installed, some would rather keep the money and do some more work on their end. It's all cool with me.

[GTWILLY]

Whether someone wants to pay more for a better fitting and more cleanly executed kit is entirely up to them. Some will find value in a few hundred bucks more for a kit that requires less effort to get fully installed, some would rather keep the money and do some more work on their end. It's all cool with me.

 

Well put

[lvethesnow]

I was browsing Ebay and looking at the X02 racing FMIC kit for the LGT, I'm pretty sure I'm seeing correctly but what is the baseball bat doing under the hood?

forgive me if this has already been addressed but I just saw it

thanks

 

 

i just look at the pic and the bat is stuck in the recirc hose. its a cheap plug

[Infamous1]

Whether someone wants to pay more for a better fitting and more cleanly executed kit is entirely up to them. Some will find value in a few hundred bucks more for a kit that requires less effort to get fully installed, some would rather keep the money and do some more work on their end. It's all cool with me.

This is debatable....

[korpsepatrol]

Good to know thx guys!

[GTWILLY]

This is debatable....

 

You know where I stand on this as I am installing the XO2 in my car, but there is no doubt that this kit takes a little more than others to install and get ready to install. So I would have to agree that there are people out there who would rather just spend the extra $500 to have a kit that fits and doesn't need anything extra done by the installer. For me the $500 is not worth it so I am doing the work to get it ready. And of coarse some people can't stand the idea of losing their fogs... I don't know about the fittment of different kits, but I would have to imagine that the Perrin or WBR kit fits pretty easily for the money they charge for it.

 

For those of you who are going to argue the $500 difference. $390 shipped for kit, BPV flange was machined for me for free as I have acess to a milling machine, aluminum pipe that was laying around in my garage was free. $5 a bead for the extra 6 beads needed= $30, and $70 for the 2 welds needed to weld the BPV flange on the IC piping. I also have scrap steal plate that I can use for the 2 brackets I will make for the core. If my math serves me right that comes to $490. WBR kit is the closest to that at $995. Difference of $505... I'll add in a few $$ extra for the paint I am going to spray the kit with.

[Infamous1]

You know where I stand on this as I am installing the XO2 in my car, but there is no doubt that this kit takes a little more than others to install and get ready to install. So I would have to agree that there are people out there who would rather just spend the extra $500 to have a kit that fits and doesn't need anything extra done by the installer. For me the $500 is not worth it so I am doing the work to get it ready. And of coarse some people can't stand the idea of losing their fogs... I don't know about the fittment of different kits, but I would have to imagine that the Perrin or WBR kit fits pretty easily for the money they charge for it.

 

For those of you who are going to argue the $500 difference. $390 shipped for kit, BPV flange was machined for me for free as I have acess to a milling machine, aluminum pipe that was laying around in my garage was free. $5 a bead for the extra 6 beads needed= $30, and $70 for the 2 welds needed to weld the BPV flange on the IC piping. I also have scrap steal plate that I can use for the 2 brackets I will make for the core. If my math serves me right that comes to $490. WBR kit is the closest to that at $995. Difference of $505... I'll add in a few $$ extra for the paint I am going to spray the kit with.

As far as having to weld the BOV and add brackets if you choose, thats it with the extra work. Other than that the install is no harder than any of the other kits without the beam and just as hard as any currently available kit utilizing the beam.

[GTWILLY]

As far as having to weld the BOV and add brackets if you choose, thats it with the extra work. Other than that the install is no harder than any of the other kits without the beam and just as hard as any currently available kit utilizing the beam.

 

Yea I missed that you highlighter a part of his post. Sorry. I thought you were reffereing to the entire post. Hence the extra $500 in my pocket

[Boostjunkie]

This is debatable....

 

Not in my mind. Let's take the WBR FMIC for instance. I think Dave has them going for $895 right now. Would you rather have this:

 

WBR:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h300/c0lbyj/DSC01763.jpg

 

Or this this XO2:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/tuned200/scottsfmic010.jpg

 

I dunno about you, but I'd much rather have one 90* elbow and one 45* bend right off the turbo than the insane jumble of bends that totals out to about 300+* to get the going to the same place.

 

You also get to keep your fogs, you don't have make any brackets, you don't have to spend the time cutting your bumper beam (I hate cutting up stock parts, since you'll need them at resale time), and you don't have to purchase or weld on a flange for your BOV. There is some pretty considerable value there.

 

The XO2 is a value leader for the DIY inclined. Absolutely no doubt about that at all. I will say that if you paying a shop to install an XO2 FMIC, then much of the savings will be eroded by the additional time and labor required to get it all to work.

[GTWILLY]

What does their adaptor look like for the WRX style turbo? As I believe it was put, that piping was made that way to make it easy to swap out to a wrx style turbo. I guarantee that the XO2 kit can have one hose that makes the same bend.

 

But I do not argue with you that it is a great DIY kit, as long as that is what it is, and not something you send to a shop to put in. I have HID's so fogs can go lick something.

[Infamous1]

Not in my mind. Let's take the WBR FMIC for instance. I think Dave has them going for $895 right now. Would you rather have this:

 

WBR:

 

 

Or this this XO2:

 

 

I dunno about you, but I'd much rather have one 90* elbow and one 45* bend right off the turbo than the insane jumble of bends that totals out to about 300+* to get the going to the same place.

 

You also get to keep your fogs, you don't have make any brackets, you don't have to spend the time cutting your bumper beam (I hate cutting up stock parts, since you'll need them at resale time), and you don't have to purchase or weld on a flange for your BOV. There is some pretty considerable value there.

 

The XO2 is a value leader for the DIY inclined. Absolutely no doubt about that at all. I will say that if you paying a shop to install an XO2 FMIC, then much of the savings will be eroded by the additional time and labor required to get it all to work.

 

I rather have either of the two that performs as it was intended, have you ever installed a XO2 kit?

[itsme]

I could understand before anyone datalog their cars with their cars with this FMIC . That maybe the way the outlet curves that it might hinder performance and cause lag. But so far everyone (but mustangkiller A*K*A legacykiller ) have been happy with the setup once they installed it. They all say that it reduces lag, improves throttle response and no heatsoak. All for $390 shipped. So you have a problem with the way the pipe comes off the turbo. Why? I always go for function over form. That design has been used for year on counter clockwise wrx fmic kits. It was also left in so you can run wrx style turbo with have to buy any extra parts and to be like the old Mcdonald's hamburger the Mc DLT. "It keeps the hotside hot and the cool side cool." So now WRB dropped their price (I wonder why? hmmm.......) they are still more they still more then twice as much as this FMIC (*baseball bat not included ). So really Fmic and it's cantankerous pipes? Yes trimming the bumper is a pita. Unlike all the kits that are out you keep your bumper beam and the foam between the beam and the bumper skin. So in a minor bump you still have the foam not your core the take some of the hit.

[itsme]

After all that a better question is...........

Does it do what it is suppose to do?.........

[GTTuner]

If you want to debate the funky routing from the turbo outlet I will chime in here.

 

The LGT is my 4th turbo car. I made my own FMIC's on two of them. The second system I did was a tight fit. I had four tight 90 degree elbows in the system. It worked great but I thought the 90's needed to go. I proceded to blow a huge amount of $$ to work out a piping system with NO sharp bends. Eliminating the bends also cut three feet of overall tubing length!

Ready for a surprise? There was absolutly no noticible difference at all. IMO that set up is just fine, although the appearance may lead you to believe there is a bottle neck, I'd put a c-note on the table there is hardly any.