cfdrumr Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 ill make sure to get one before I get my tune what does the pill do exactly? How does it effect performance/boost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfdrumr Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 oh wow...i didnt even see that i posted that a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepich Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Replaced a pill , went to 1.2mm (from 1.25), adjusted WGDC init duty. Car much easier hits the boost , but it looks like this: little overboost (-0.2 - -0.5 boost error) on WOT 4th and 5th gear, but still underboost (about 1-1.5 psi) on WOT for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd . I do not care for a 1st and 2nd, but need to have it on 3rd. What table I have to adjust? If I've add WGDC - it will overboost more on high gears.. Any suggestions? I am newbe to this, please do not kill :-) Edited December 10, 2008 by lepich There are no bad people, just differeent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Just installed the smaller pill and with MickeyD's help, adjusted my tune; the biggest improvement is the increase in power in 1st and 2nd gear, the boost builds much sooner in the lower gears..I am very happy with this really easy and cheap mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black318i Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Was this on a VF40? What size pill did you go with and did you have to tune anything other than WGDC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 yeah..VF40 with XO2 FMIC. I went with the Subaru 1 mm pill..the only thing that we needed to change was WG initial and WG max. We did not mess with turbo dynamics. The more I drive it the more impressed I am with 1st and 2nd gear performance..car feels much quicker in those gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black318i Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Cool would you mind posting or PMing the WG tables, that is if MickeyD doesn't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Check out this thread...WG tables are posted there. http://www.romraider.com/forum/topic3870-120.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Just for everyone's knowledge, McMaster's has almost ANY metric sized drill-bit you could ever need for this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black318i Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I tried tuning my car with a 1.0 mm pill. It works but the WGDC needed to hit target boost is too low for my taste (40 to 50%). For anyone tuning their own car who wants an aggressive stage 2 tune, I recommend a 1.1 to 1.2 mm pill for VF40 2005-2006 cars. So why would a slightly higher WGDC be better? I just ordered a 1mm pill, but I think I'll pick up a 1.2 also since the dealer has them in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 So why would a slightly higher WGDC be better? I just ordered a 1mm pill, but I think I'll pick up a 1.2 also since the dealer has them in stock. It gives the ECU and TD more room to apply adjustments without over/under boosting but still meets your needs to appropriate boost. However I find the 1mm pill is fine for most vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepich Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 However I find the 1mm pill is fine for most vehicles This is where I ended up. 1mm pill on a stock turbo. Working just fine. 1.2mm was not enough. There are no bad people, just differeent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Here is a work in progress log showing the quick spool of the stock turbo with a FMIC and 1mm pill. I am hitting peak boost at about ~2800 RPM in third gear. But the real nice part is 2nd gear..I would never hit peak in 2nd gear, now I do.  romraiderlog_20090531_214608.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black318i Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Nice so what gear(s) do you usually log to dial in this mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 3rd..after that is dialed in you need to confirm you are not overboosting at low RPM at WOT in the higher gears. I was lucky and am having no overboosting issues in the higher gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 i wasnt having overboosting issues in hot weather but we had a few 65 degree mornings and now i am hitting 21-22psi in 5th. running a fmic with 1mm pill. any ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyd2005 Posted July 9, 2009 Author Share Posted July 9, 2009 You need to adjust your WGDC IAT compensation table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 thanks a lot. i will talk with my tuner about it. until then i will just baby it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black318i Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I think I'm going install my 1mm pill and try to dial in my boost tomorrow. How do I determine the difference or range from initial WGDC to max WGDC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 im not going to comment since i am just learning how to tune but wait till you see what a difference the 1mm pill makes in spool time. hitting target boost is a whole lot easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2mchbst Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 I just installed a VF52 and catless up-pipe. I know everyone says bigger injectors, pump and a tune. Unfortunately I don't have the cash right now. I want to lower the boost to something that won't make me hit that wall everyone talks about. Should I be using the pill from my VF40 or a different size. Will this even help me. Â Thanks for any input guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black318i Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 SpecB what does your boost peak at in 1st? Also do you have any 1st and 2nd gear logs with the 1mm pill? My 2nd is pretty close, but 1st is less than 16psi with my target at 18.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I do not have 1st gear logs...but i think I am hitting about that, 16-17psi in 1st. I hit 18.5 in 2nd at around 3300 rpm and 18.5 in 3rd at around 2800-2900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black318i Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Cool thanks I guess my tune isn't that far off. I was under the assumption that you could hit target boost in 1st too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 It goes by way too quickly...if I log it and get different results I will let you know. But 16psi sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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