xt2005bonbon Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 see this post: http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5087698&postcount=1057 The first picture should help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Muji Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Is there any kind of consensus yet on whether it is best to remove the filter screen, or replace with a new one every few 10k miles? Has anyone actually confirmed that their turbo bearings wore out to the point of failure because they removed the banjo screen? Also, is it possible to simply clean the existing banjo screen and reuse, it or needs to be replaced rather than cleaned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oODanKNesSOo Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 I don't think there is really a way to prove the filters cause failure... but knowing that the turbo usually is killed by starving for oil- and the filters impede oil flow; it's determined they definitely don't help. Subaru has done away with them, so that is rather telling, I'd say huh? Removal- good luck on removing and cleaning them... I think it's such a pita, that I'd be worried about the integrity of the filter if you got er out in one piece. If you have big enough debri in your oil that it will cause damage to the turbo without the filter in place... well you have bigger issues then the turbo I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Is there any kind of consensus yet on whether it is best to remove the filter screen, or replace with a new one every few 10k miles? Has anyone actually confirmed that their turbo bearings wore out to the point of failure because they removed the banjo screen? Also, is it possible to simply clean the existing banjo screen and reuse, it or needs to be replaced rather than cleaned? Over 83,000 miles with the filter before the turbo removed and over 72,000 miles with both filters removed. Take them out and leave them out. You have a oil filter on the engine to catch crap...there should be no reason for crap to cause damage to the turbo in a healthy engine. Think about it, if it was that import to have filters before critically important parts, they would put filters before each bearing surface in the block and heads. Oh, they do, its the engine oil filter. Use a good oil filter, keep you oil level topped off, use a decent oil. I also try and drive easy for the last 1/2 mile or so before I shut the car off if I've been driving it hard or on the highway, just to let the oil cool a little. Your new here, these cars like to be driven, those of us with high mileage cars have fewer problems then those who only drive for short distances. Both my cars when started are driven for 10 miles or my on the highway before they get shut off 99% of the time. Yes a may go to the local store in town, but that's not a normal drive for me. Any big shopping or entertainment is at least a 10 miles highway drive. My Spec gets driven once a week this time of year, to diner, movie or shopping on Saturday evening's. Other times of the year it may sit for 4 or more weeks before it gets moved. But when its driven, it for a distance. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceRedFiveOh Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Did subaru change to a filterless turbo feed bolt? I told the dude at the dealership which part I wanted and when I picked it up it didn't have a filter (still had a raised nipple on the head), so I proceed to change what I thought was the supply bolt. Whenever I pulled the old one out though, it didn't have a filter in it either. I'm wondering, am I good to go? Or did I change the wrong bolt?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Did subaru change to a filterless turbo feed bolt? I told the dude at the dealership which part I wanted and when I picked it up it didn't have a filter (still had a raised nipple on the head), so I proceed to change what I thought was the supply bolt. Whenever I pulled the old one out though, it didn't have a filter in it either. I'm wondering, am I good to go? Or did I change the wrong bolt?? I'm thinking you pulled the one at the turbo not the one on the back of the head. The bolt you want is the one that goes in the oil feed tube here, http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x40/92Si/DSCN4769.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x40/92Si/DSCN4770_zpse522bec7.jpg 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsmythe Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Thanks to all for the great info on this thread. Have a new-to-me '05 LGT with 149k Miles on it. After the timing belt, this was next on my list. The engine bay looked fairly clean and tidy. I had hoped the PO maintained it well. The turbo feed banjo bolt came out no problem. The filter was clean but I took it out anyway. The AVCS side top bolt came out no problem either. There was no filter in the bolt and I tried fishing in the hole but I saw metal and no sign of any filter. I decided to forego the killer bolt behind the timing belt cover. The guy who did the timing belt thought it was too hard and thought he had to take off the cams etc. I have fresh dino oil in there so I will have some fun later. Next up is switching to 0w-40 M1.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 ^ since the car is new to you, have you checked its valve clearance just in case? Also, you should consider getting the btssm app+sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Thanks to all for the great info on this thread. Have a new-to-me '05 LGT with 149k Miles on it. After the timing belt, this was next on my list. The engine bay looked fairly clean and tidy. I had hoped the PO maintained it well. The turbo feed banjo bolt came out no problem. The filter was clean but I took it out anyway. The AVCS side top bolt came out no problem either. There was no filter in the bolt and I tried fishing in the hole but I saw metal and no sign of any filter. I decided to forego the killer bolt behind the timing belt cover. The guy who did the timing belt thought it was too hard and thought he had to take off the cams etc. I have fresh dino oil in there so I will have some fun later. Next up is switching to 0w-40 M1.... 0w-40 is a BAD idea. 5w-40 Shell Rotella t6 if you want to stay with oil you can get very easy. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsmythe Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 0w-40 is a BAD idea. 5w-40 Shell Rotella t6 if you want to stay with oil you can get very easy. Thanks for the tip, switching to Rotella now. I have never done a valve shim adjustment and I think I'll shop that around first to see what it would cost. I've done valve lash multiple times but shims you would need handy if you needed to adjust anything. I would rather get them checked and adjusted at the same time. Got a short laundry list including d#@$(* airbag light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 for the airbag light, it could be that: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/airbag-light-sometimes-console-problemi-149073.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsmythe Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 for the airbag light, it could be that: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/airbag-light-sometimes-console-problemi-149073.html Thanks, been there and was the last poster on that thread. I do really like working on Subies, have 3 others but all NA. This is my first Subie Turbo and it's a blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 good. Seriously consider the btssm tool. It will save you money especially if it is your first turbo subie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 If only I had an android device...don't think this will work with Blackberry... - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Yeah buzzkill when I was looking and found out android only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 True. If you are patient though, you could always follow the route I did: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0slj-8_d-8]Nexus 7 2013 installed in 05 subaru outback using OEM USDM NAV bezel - YouTube[/ame] /end of thread-jacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsmythe Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 will keep that info on btsSsm handy. i need my pockets refilled after going thru the usual used-car laundry list. i have an older elm dongle that i just used with torgue to look at a few things. no faults was all i got... sorry for jacking the thread, back to ye olde banjo bolts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 True. If you are patient though, you could always follow the route I did: /end of thread-jacking I like the Nexus route, but I'm loathe to displace this http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=55111&d=1216267461 - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteout Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 For a stock engine, I've been using 5w30 synthetic oil since our wagon was new. Walmart seems to offer the best prices on 5 qt. jugs. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I like the Nexus route, but I'm loathe to displace this http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=55111&d=1216267461 Can't see your pic . But I am guessing some type of gauges in the cubby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 It's the STI (DEFI) 3-gauge pack - Boost, Oil Pressure and Oil Temp - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Oh yeah. I see why now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithcraft Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Since I had the turbo out, I pulled the bolt and removed the filter. I marked the bolt head to indicate the direction of the openings. When I put it back in, I noticed that it's turning a bit past the wide open, by about 30 to 45 degrees. Is this ok, or is there something I should try to look at? SC 1994 Legacy MI 2008 Legacy GT specB 2023 Crosstrek Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 IMO your fine as long as it doesn't leak. Oil will flow around the bolt in that fitting. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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