Who running the blitz

[Bigkahuna808]

Anybody here running the blitz axel backs that are one sale right now. I was wondering how loud they are since they are only axel back. If I go axel back do any companies out there sell the axel to the down pipe section

[TSiWRX]

I have them, and I love them - and I am one of those people who needs quiet (the wifey).

 

Importantly, I have the Blitz NurSpec "Touring" - the NurSpec "Race" canisters will be much, much louder!

 

At low RPM, they're actually quite bassy. At-idle, combined with the Lachute Y which I have the car now (it incorporates a rather gigantic Magnaflow resonator, too - note that this is non-standard), this sucker will actually set-off too-sensitive car-alarms from idle to around 1.5K RPM.

 

However, once I'm further up the rev-range - at 3.5K on-up (i.e. at a constant highway cruise), my interior noise level isn't that much above stock.

 

From what I can remember, changing over from the stock Y to the Lachute did both deepen the exhaust note as well as make it somewhat louder, but neither were excessively so.

 

The problem for you, though is that you're a wagon.....

 

I truly fear that even with the stock Y, you'll still drone unacceptably.

 

Also, you'll want to check fitment. My Touring canisters' tips do not protrude at all from my rear bumper cut-outs. I'm a sedan. I'm not sure how they would fit on your wagon..... Furthermore, I'm lowered on iONs (about an inch lower, all-around) - if you're looking at a parking lot with high speed-bumps, and you're also lowered, you may scrape your canister(s).

[Bigkahuna808]

Thats what I have heard. I really want exhuast but dont want the wagon drone. I get really good prices on the axel backs. How was it just by doing the axel back, did you notice any performance gains? Got a pic of it on the car? Thanks

[TSiWRX]

I really didn't notice much of a difference between just the axle-back and the axle-back + Y-section, either in terms of noise level or "felt power."

 

My own preference is for louder exhausts ( and I would've gotten the Perrin CBE, had my wifey's needs for the car not been a concern ), so I'm a bad judge of the former.

 

And as my butt-dyno is both well-insulated as well as notoriously ill-calibrated, well.....you understand that I'm a bad judge of the latter, too.

 

Quantitatively, I also unfortuantely cannot say anything about performance pre/post switch-out of the axle-back versus Y-pipe combo. The problem was that my car was never dyno'ed with just the axle-back section using my previous tune, so no comparison can be made. I do think that yes, the Touring canisters do flow better than the stockers, but due to the tight bend that they make at the A/B -to- Y junction, as well as the fact that they do neck down to receive the stock piping, I also do not think that they're quite as free-flowing as, say, the "straighter" full CBE systems, such as the GReddy EVO2.

 

As for pix?

 

I did have some pix of my car on here, but I had to remove them during the vBGarage malfunction issue a while ago. I'll post some this coming summer, but I well-understand that you'd like these pictures well before that!

 

Please send me an e-mail at CXL77@po.cwru.edu - I'll send you one back, from my Yahoo account, that will have some pictures of my car.

 

In the mean time, ex-LGTer Bluesmaster, from whom I bought my canisters, had some pictures of his setup here:

 

http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33285&highlight=blitz

 

And lucky for you, his old LGT was OBP!!!! Sorry, though, that it's also a sedan - so that fitment issue again may be problematic....

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[Bigkahuna808]

thanks, they look awsome on ther other car, I will shoot you a email. Do you recomend doing the greddy route or the perin ypipes and blitz

[TSiWRX]

^ I'll look for ya. The SPAM filters are tight, but I'll search you out.

 

I am truly un-certain as to how best to answer your question, my friend.......

 

The biggest problem comes in exactly what you may perceive as excessive volume and/or drone. Each of us has a different definition thereof, and I think this is very, very hard for one person to say, with any semblance of assurance, to another.

 

Isn't the SP2 available for the wagon variant? If my old DSM was any judge, the SP2 was quite a bit quieter and more civilized than the EVO2 system, but again, I'm not sure how this would first of all translate to our platform, secondly, to the wagon, and third, of course, if your ears would pick it up.

 

[Bigkahuna808]

Im just looking to avoid the police attention and the droan in the cabin. Thats kinda why im favoring the sp2. But I get really good prices on blitz. Recently I came across JIC cat backs anything on them

[TSiWRX]

^ Police won't be a problem, in terms of volume, for the Blitz NurSpec "Touring."

 

I actually (and quite embarrassingly so) set off too-sensitive car-alarms at-idle or even just off-idle, but once I'm over 3K RPM, the way the canisters must have been designed makes it so that the noise level actually seem to drop a bit.

 

I once hammered her to get past another vehicle in a blocked-lane traffic situation, only to see an enforcer off to the side of the road. Although I backed-off instantly (and at that point, I was only up to the PSL, anyway), I never even got a side-glance from the officer. I would imagine that your wagon's inherent stealth, combined with the Touring canisters' rather unique noise-control, would take care of this concern for you.

 

The only issue would be their rather glaringly "hey, look at me!" looks. They're big canisters, and no-one is not going to notice them..... In that manner, they're definitely not stealth.

 

I wonder how they'd fit to your wagon, though, and if that difference may make them more camouflaged?

[Bigkahuna808]

thats one of my main issues, i do want them to be on the smaller size in the way of outlet. Ive read that the JICs are slightly smaller in diamiter. And they come with silencers. Heres what they look like and they have a wagon spec filiment

http://www.jic-magic.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=21&CarModelID=109&CarMakeID=9

http://www.jic-magic.com/images/products/P-21-1.jpg

[SpawnGT]

that spartan exhaust,...does anyone have one of those on their cars? because that looks pretty sexy. in addition...what does that mean that they come with silencers...how does tht work?

[31337_LGT]

I had the JIC Spartan cbe exhaust on my previous car, a Mazdaspeed Protege (my first taste, although a small one, of boost and if I'm asked to admit that I owned a MSP, I'll deny it in court ). That exhaust is nice and DEEP with no traces of rice (that angry-bees, lawnmower sound).

 

Of course, an inline 4 will sound different than our boxer engines, but I can definitely say that the JIC exhausts are quality products...awesome welds and great sound.

 

Your question on silencers: it's a little metal end-cap that looks like a funnel that you can bolt on the exhaust tip. Doing so definitely lowers the volume of the exhaust and the butt-dyno can feel a drop in performance (how much, I'm not sure if it's even that much).

[Bigkahuna808]

yeah hopefully I can did up some owners with the Spartin. Im now torn between so many exhausts again. I hope that Cobb hurrys with thiers and I will buy that. If not its down to Greddy or the spartin

[TSiWRX]

Per the silencers....

 

That was one of my original thoughts - that I'd get the GReddy EVO2, or heck, even the Perrin CBE , and run silencers for when the wifey was due to be in the car with me for extended periods.

 

There was then a post from Jon of TDC that showed not-insignificant power losses and a noticeably different powerband of a vehicle run without and then with silencers in-place....and that kinda turned me off to the idea.

 

My concern is that I have an ECUTeK reflash, and therefore cannot overlay "RealTime" maps onto my basemap. As such, after looking at the dyno graphs that I spoke of, I was afraid that the silencers would so much alter exhaust flow as to make running them - particularly in potentially high-EGT situations like extended highway cruising - an issue of concern.

 

I would say that if you do have the ability to run either a RealTime map and/or utilize ECUTeK's EasyECU (and for this latter user, who doesn't mind a quick reflash of the base-map) and can flash to a more conservative map when using the silencers in prolonged-driving situations, then it shouldn't be much of a concern.

 

For what it's worth, I could never get a fully committed answer from *any* of the tuners I spoke to as to whether or not running a base-map that's designed for the open, without silencers setting would be "safe enough" for shorter trips (and not running her full-bore). And that's why I decided against it.

[boostspeed]

I have the blitz axle back with the perrin y and mid pipe. The sound is excellent and the they bolt up with no problems . Have had no issues with the police they just give a thumbs up; and thats it a town with 100 dollar fine for loud radios.

[Abandonhope16]

I too was concerned about the drawing of attention from the police with a loud exhaust, and the drawing of attention from a naggy fiance. I went with the Lachute axle-back, which I am very happy with. Provides a nice boxer rumble with little drone (though I have a sedan). They bolted up perfectly and I want to say that the car is slightly more responsive, but that could be in my head. I'm definately very happy with them and my fiance approves .

[Bigkahuna808]

so the silencers casued power issues while acceletating? I can see this since it does create restricitons in flow. Gotta track down that article now. Hopefully if I go with a exahust system that uses silencers, that its more like daily driving mode with silencers in, and enthuisat mode with them out.

[LowFast]

I have the JIC on my sedan, no pics up yet but I will take some. They look great and have a nice smooth base tone to them, as said earlier they are not 'ricey' at all. No highway drone either. It is not a cat back, only an axle back, but still great IMHO.

[Bigkahuna808]

cool,

cant wait to see the pics, any chance of sound clip or video?: