KartRacerBoy Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I've seen many threads on how to get rid of daytime running lights. I like them. Motorcyclists like them becz they make the cycles more visible generally. So why do so many hate them and want to disable them on this site? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 For the same reason they dislike duplicate posts - they are annoying Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubiGT Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Very annoying, I must agree Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTsullyman Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 As long as they dont blind me or other people i see nothing wrong with the DRLs. I figure that one day its might be that little extra help that saves my car. 2007 DGM LGT 2003 Suzuki SV650S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.T.Subie Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I got rid of the DRL's, but I use my fogs as my driving lights. Denial is your best friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnoldscu Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I wondered the same thing for a long time... then I realized for myself: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10089&highlight=lights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AreEyeSeeKay Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Because I am on my third set of low beam lamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I wondered the same thing for a long time... then I realized for myself: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10089&highlight=lights I never got pulled over because of them, but I did forget to turn the rest of the lights on once or twice and only noticed when I tried to turn'em off after parking. As long as you don't have HIDs I don't really mind if you drive around with your lights on all the time, but I hate DRL systems likes ours that make it easy for drivers to forget to turn all their lights on at night. (If you do have HIDs I wish you'd replace'em with a perfectly functional and much easier on the eyes set of halogens. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted November 26, 2006 Author Share Posted November 26, 2006 I am the REPOST KING. All hail my power to repost. All else get lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted November 26, 2006 Author Share Posted November 26, 2006 It's not the DRLs that are the problem at night. It's the damn electroluminesent gauges. If the speedometer is lit, I assume the lights are on as in nearly all other cars. If the DRLs came on but the gauges weren't lit, I'd figure out I have to turn on the lights faster. It's only when I notice that the radio, hvac, etc aren't lit that I figure out the taillights aren't on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted November 26, 2006 Author Share Posted November 26, 2006 Because I am on my third set of low beam lamps. That's becz you're from New Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnAWD Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I don't hate DRLs personally, but I'd like control over when they are on. I've disabled them for now, but plan on wiring up the fog lights to always use the switch, whether the lights are off, lowbeams on, or hightbeams on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWP-LegacyGT Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Because having functional HID's is > DRL's? Least I think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 The concept of daytime headlights is based on the idea that lights on during daytime = not normal so the brain picks up on it. It's why school buses and motorcycles do it. If / when every car has its lights on during the day, the effectiveness will be greatly reduced and soon it'll be just like it was when nobody ran lights during the day. It'll also make it less safe for motorcyclists. School buses are yellow for increased visibility. If every third vehicle was the same bright yellow, it would reduce the usefullness of having the color on buses. Same goes for DRLs -- it's a misguided attempt at increasing safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensL Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Here in Norway (and Scandinavia) it's obligatory for every vehicle to use the headlights during the day. It's been like this for quite a few years. And honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way. Cars are so much easier to see, it's easier to see how far away they are, and it's easier to spot an "active" car as opposed to a parked one. When I see an imported car without any lights during the day, I'm amazed that anyone even considers the notion that DRL shouldn't be obligatory. It's even more ridiculous when I visit countries that doesn't have DRL, for example Germany. I actually feel quite unsafe when driving there, it seems like all cars are switched off. :-) The effectiveness will NOT be reduced if every car got their lights on during the day. A light is a light, no matter bus or bike. Wouldn't it be better if buses and trucks drove on the other side of the road? Then they would be quite visible, right? And this is absolutely not a misguided attempt at increasing safety. More european countries are introducing this. I just can't believe it took them so long. What are the negative sides? You needing to buy an extra pair of bulbs per year for a few bucks? Are you kidding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisS Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 What are the negative sides? You needing to buy an extra pair of bulbs per year for a few bucks? Are you kidding? Exactly what was posted in the earlier link. I'm seeing more and more cars that drive around at night without actually having their lights on, but their DLR's are running. As soon as people learn to turn their lights on at night, which DRLs don't help, then it may actually be helpful. I'd rather have cars driving with their tails on then during the night then their head lights during the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutru01 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 DRL = waste of bulblife If you can't see another car coming, you need to get your eyes checked. If its foggy or the visibility is low, you turn your lights on. Disabling my DRLs was the first modification for me when I installed HIDs. I just don't personally think they are necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suba_rus Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 A person driving with high beams on- that's what is killing me. I am with people that consider DRLs safety benefit, thou not a major one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirsimon Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I agree with Jens. Buying a set or two of bulbs per year is a small price to pay for increased visibility to other drivers. I do, however, agree that Subaru should do something to make the electroluminescent gauges appear to be "off" during the day, so that drivers remember to switch their lights "on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 The insurance co. and gov't studies are out there. DRL reduce vehicle to vehicle accident rates by increasing visability or "visibleness" if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Well if an insurance study or government study says it then it must be true... Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutru01 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Well if an insurance study or government study says it then it must be true... Right, as if what they say is never skewed or false. As to whether DRLs are better or not..... Different strokes for different folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Well if an insurance study or government study says it then it must be true... Studies. Scientific studies are much more conclusive than anecdotally based gainsaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutru01 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Studies. Scientific studies are much more conclusive than anecdotally based gainsaying. The problem with most studies is that they don't use large enough data range. For instance, if you select 10 people and 4 of them have an STD for instance, does that mean that 40% of the population has an STD? No, or course not, but there are organizations that will conduct studies with that small of a data range and form a conclusion based on those types of numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 The problem with most studies is that they don't use large enough data range. The studies to which I refer and that are easily found by some googling are scientific/actuarial and have huge data bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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