SubiGT Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 The GM of the dealer where I bought my car wants to compensate me monetarily for their F*up. Click here for whole story. What do you guys think is a good starting point? I have until next Tuesday before he contacts me again about this. Please help a brother out with ideas. Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBoy Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I would ask for AT LEAST the amount of depreciation you would encounter, plus a maybe 25-50% of that for not telling ya....depending on how good they were at handling it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Find out how much the car lost in trade in value because of repair. This would be my starting point. Krzys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Even trade on an 07 specB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red beast Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 you should have it inspected to see if the repairs were done correctly. if you keep it get a free extended warranty then at least diminished value+some hookers+a bag of blow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubiGT Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 hookers and blow, reminds me of this time in Thailand............ I was thinking about the hail damaged cars. Does anyone remember how much of a deal they were? How many thousands were they discounted? I might start there, and then add for shadiness. Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philpug Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 hookers and blow, reminds me of this time in Thailand............ If you can remember it...you didn't have THAT much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMull123 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 If they're offering you money, it's cuz they think they can get out cheaper than if you went to court, which they are going to. Get yourself a lawyer, sue the dealership, get yourself a brand new BTO car, plus some extra money to pay the insurance up, or mods, whichever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 If they're offering you money, it's cuz they think they can get out cheaper than if you went to court, which they are going to. Get yourself a lawyer, sue the dealership, get yourself a brand new BTO car, plus some extra money to pay the insurance up, or mods, whichever. Not necessarily. I tried that one time after the dealership offered me some money and lost in court because the female judge knew nothing about cars and a quirk in Illinois law pertaining to used vehicles regarding seller disclosure. Illinois law is weighted heavily in favour of dealers. Only use the courts as an absolute last resort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlrtime Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 http://edbatista.typepad.com/edbatista/images/2005/02/Dr%20Evil.jpg one million dollars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I would first try to get a nice amount of money - say $5k plus a gold extended warranty for extra 3 years. They may be willing to pay more to avoid hassle of going to court. I'd prefer to spare that myself, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not_blown Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 If i was in your situation i would get a new car, have them take the other one back. You'll never feel right about that car. They should of disclosed the damage, i'm sure if they did that at the beginning you would of gotten them to find you a different car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konrad Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 If i was in your situation i would get a new car, have them take the other one back. You'll never feel right about that car. They should of disclosed the damage, i'm sure if they did that at the beginning you would of gotten them to find you a different car. +11111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Even trade for an '07 with navigation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ur a bus Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 If i was in your situation i would get a new car, have them take the other one back. You'll never feel right about that car. They should of disclosed the damage, i'm sure if they did that at the beginning you would of gotten them to find you a different car. Yes, just have the dealer order you a 2007 LGT Ltd wagon with 5 mt. Oh, wait. There's something wrong with this idea........ -- Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondaypride Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Consult with your local lawyer that specializes in consumer protection matter. I would start initial consultations with atleast 4 or more lawyers about your situation. Most lawyers do not charge for initial consultation. After this you will have a general idea how much damages you can get in return and OPEN YOUR OPTIONS MORE TO HOW MUCH YOU CAN GET! It is very importnat that you find an experienced lawyer in the automibile industry. Google lawyer directory or goto some websites like findlawyer.com (not too sure how reliable it is but you will find one) to find a lawyer that can help you who is experienced in that field. Remember you do not need an attorney as long as the dealer is willing to give you what you demand for ie. Brand new 07' legacy gt wagon loaded. Since attorney fees will cost you % of what you get or $200 an hour price tag. If they don't offer you something decent then go find a lawyer asap since it is most likely they think they can buy you out for a cheap price. Consult with some lawyers and see what you can do from there. (Initial consultation is free most cases) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondaypride Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 BTW end your communication with the manager/dealer until you get a chance to talk to some lawyers to get an idea how much you can get out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazma Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Is it just me or are we all getting a little crazy here?? While I understand that he has been mislead regarding the condition of his car upon purchase, it seems to me that the dealer is more than willing to compensate him. Dont you realize that every dollar that is spent rectifying this issue is added to the cost of the next Legacy that you and I buy? Why do we see every injustice as a "get rich quick" opportunity? Take what is fair and walk away. It seems like the dealer is willing to rectify the situation with a new car, cash reimbursments etc. Sure, the dealer doesnt want this to go into litigation but do you? The only people making real money out of this will be the Lawyers at $200+ an hour. My 2 cents, if you like your car and it rides and runs ok, get cash from him equal to the deminished value of the car (making sure you have all the repairs disclosed first) , get a free extended warranty and lifetime servicing, and have him guarantee you a great trade and an extra $2000 off (after rebates etc) any future Subaru purchase at his dealership. I dont like dealers anymore than the next guy ... heck Ive been screwed myself .... but we all end up hurting in the long run if everytime something unjust happens we dial 1800 LAWYER I stand ready for a bashing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazma Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 The only reason the dealership is willing to work something out in the first place is that they were caught red handed. Why you think they should be rewarded for being dishonest in the first place is beyond me. Not looking to reward the dealer. Thats why you get compensation from them .... You have no idea how the damage will affect the car down the line. In addition, if he found out about, so will other dealerships should he want to trade it in at another time. That why you get extended warrenty and free lifetime servicing. And you will have already been compensated for deminished value if you have issues with another dealer.... Hardly a get rich scheme. Perhaps ... but when i read people making comments like "get everything you can" and " stick it to them " it makes me wonder .... When you spend 30K or so of your hard earned money on a new car that you know will depreciate as soon as you leave the dealer, you dont want a car that was depreciated prior to you ever purchasing it. true ... thats why you get compensated for deminished value ..... I dont quite see how we all end up getting charged more because of this one dealer's F up. That is an extremely innacurate and simplistic take on this. Companies expect a certain amount of litigation. That's how it works. Have you tried getting health issurance as a small business lately??? Cost me over $1200/month for a family of 4 .... Why would you trust the dealer that hid major damage from you to honor an agreement on a "good trade" value?? Just a thought ... but thats why you dont hinge everything on that one thing .... Get a new car. That's what you bought in good faith, but did not receive. It is illegal to sell a car this way without disclosing it. Cant replace the with an 07 5mt LGT or I would totally agree ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondaypride Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Dazma when you said people see this whole situation as a get rich qucik scheme, I think that assumption was a little out of line. That is very interesting that you think he/she shouldn't sue the dealership for selling a used car with a new tag with a new car price. And it was involved in a major accident as well:icon_conf wut the hell?!!? seriously??? This was clearly NOT A MISTAKE And it is soo retarded that it sounds like a joke Like I said before if he/she does not get compansated for the damages fairly he/she should sue them for the court fees, attorney fees, and the other numerous damages. Just put yourself in that person's shoe before making assumptions like "this is a get rich scheme" Remeber he/she bought a $30k automobile thinking it was new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 That is very interesting that you think he/she shouldn't sue the dealership for selling a used car with a new tag with a new car price. And it was involved in a major accident as well:icon_conf wut the hell?!!? seriously??? This was clearly NOT A MISTAKE And it is soo retarded that it sounds like a joke Like I said before if he/she does not get compansated for the damages fairly he/she should sue them for the court fees, attorney fees, and the other numerous damages. Just put yourself in that person's shoe before making assumptions like "this is a get rich scheme" Remeber he/she bought a $30k automobile thinking it was new. All the more reason to settle the matter out of court. If the dealer misrepresented the car's condition, it is fraud and because of that the dealer would probably do whatever it takes to keep the matter quiet. The only thing that will keep it quiet is a fair/generous settlement. You can attract more flies with honey than vinegar and the GM would probably consider keeping the case out of court to be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazma Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Dazma when you said people see this whole situation as a get rich qucik scheme, I think that assumption was a little out of line. That is very interesting that you think he/she shouldn't sue the dealership for selling a used car with a new tag with a new car price. And it was involved in a major accident as well:icon_conf wut the hell?!!? seriously??? This was clearly NOT A MISTAKE And it is soo retarded that it sounds like a joke Like I said before if he/she does not get compansated for the damages fairly he/she should sue them for the court fees, attorney fees, and the other numerous damages. Just put yourself in that person's shoe before making assumptions like "this is a get rich scheme" Remeber he/she bought a $30k automobile thinking it was new. Hey .... I have nothing but love for SubiGt ... In fact I think that he is handling the situation very well. What I am responding to is the tone of some of those that have replied to his posts. If push comes to shove then sure ... lawyer up ... but it seems that for many it is the first port of call when dealing with problems. He should press the dealership for what is right and fair according to his needs. If no joy then move up the food chain to SOA. Also contact consumer advocacy groups. Last on the list is the Lawyers In reading others similar dealer related problems, most have been solved without the need for Lawyers. Let me repeat ... I believe SubiGt is handling the situation with poise. . My origional post relates to the tone of some of the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinski Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I would ask for between $4-5k and whatever the longest bumper-to-bumper extended warranty Subaru offers, plus top dollar for trade should you choose to do business again, get it in writing and certified. Then I'd drive the car until it dies from old age. At that point diminished value would be minimized and you'd essentially pocket the whatever they gave you (instead of being screwed by tryign to sell it soon and taking a hit on the diminished value). If you don't think you want to keep it for a long while, I'd go with option 1 or 2 from the previous post. They can get you into a new LGT for minimal expense (I'd push for straight trade personally) and you can have a brand new car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panamajack Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 http://edbatista.typepad.com/edbatista/images/2005/02/Dr%20Evil.jpg one million dollars! dont you mean ONE BILLION DOLLARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elxkid Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 dont you mean 100 BILLION DOLLARS?! muahahahahah still hoping you stick it to them. Punishment is necessary to make sure it never happens to anyone again. ...sporting the hottest Legacy on the westside of my block:icon_bigg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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