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hey i just wanted to give a follow-up now that i've had these for a while.

 

the blinder xtreme is FANTASTIC.

 

i have NEVER gotten a laser/lidar ticket with these things on... I got 2 more jammers for the back (now i have the m40, technically)

 

they work beautifully. i did pull them out a little so they protrude from the bumper.

 

 

oh, and without them, i would have 14 laser/lidar tickets by now. fyi.

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^ The M40/30/20 systems are very nice.

 

Currently, there's some debate as to the effectiveness of the M45/35/35 units (current-generation units, replacements for the M40/30/20, which are now defunct) - as in whether or not they are even up-to-par with the old M40/30/20. Unfortunately, for the last set of GOL tests, only the M40/30/20 was available, but things should be clarified by the time of the upcoming test.

 

Regardless of any performance concerns, it's still without any doubt in anyone's mind that the Blinder company is definitely one of the best when it comes to product warranty and after-sales service. That, combined with the fact that they're one of the only (the other being Escort) truly aboveboard US-based companies engaged in this field, makes them the sole purchase consideration for some individuals.

 

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OK, updates, since this thread is seeing renewed interest. :D

 

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First and foremost, Escort introduced the 9500ci - a fully concealed, remote, integrated radar/laser solution - at this year's CES.

 

This is a next-generation unit set to take the top-dog remote-installed spot from their SR7/SR7+/SRX product, and the ci includes the "intelligent" GPS-enabled features from the 9500i stand-alone unit, plus takes artificial-intelligence a step further in offering active determination of falses, via, in-part, your driving habits as you pass perceived threats (i.e. "falses"). What has everyone drooling, though, is the rumor that the 9500ci may surpass even the vaulted V1 in terms of raw sensitivity. Whether this will prove true remains to be seen (as does Escort's claim of full Spectre immunity for this item).

 

This "next generation" unit also will include the ZR4 Laser Shifter, which is Escort's replacement for the outgoing ZR3. No-one knows how well this new active laser jammer will perform, but again, speculation has it that untold dollars went into its R&D, and that its performance, for a LED-based jammer, will surpass that of its competitors by a great margin.

 

All of this leads to the current advice regarding Escort products:

 

If your local LIDAR threats include only the PL-III and also only see "favorable" enforcement setups, you can very likely score an *excellent* deal on the now-near-defunct ZR3.

 

And if you're interested in the SR7/SR7+/SRX, you might as well just sit-tight, and wait and see what the 9500ci has to offer.

 

[ Aside: Escort has retracted their stipulation that you must have these remote-mounted units "custom installed" by an Escort-authorized professional installer. This can not only save you quite a few bucks, but should also help keep bad installers (yes, even professionals can do a horrible job with these installs) out of the loop. ]

 

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I've already covered the Blinder M45/35/25 concerns above, in my short reply to Triskite, so I won't retread. :)

 

Currently, if you're looking to buy a Blinder, I'd either save a few bucks and try to source a M40/30/20 unit via secondary sources, or, alternatively, simply sit-tight and await the next round of GOL tests, which should definitively put to-bed the current concerns regarding the M45/35/25.

 

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With regard to the AntiLaser (AL) and Laser Pro Park (LPP) twins, there seemed to be, about 6 months ago, a period of time during which nearly *everyone's* AL (and to a certain extent, also LPP - but by a far smaller number) units were failing.

 

This was traced to two factory/production concerns - bad wire crimping at the RJ connectors and also defective weathersealing on the exposed jammer/emitter heads.

 

The products affected carried purchase-dates at or before January, 2007, so this should no longer be a concern of anyone buying new pieces. However, for those of you shopping on the secondary market, be aware of this potential concern, particularly as you likely will not receive full warranty coverage as a second-hand owner.

 

Currently, if you're seeking an AntiLaser product, you'll still have to make the purchase from overseas. However, for the LPP, there now exists both a Canadian as well as stateside reseller.

 

Regardless of which way you go between these two products, both the AL and the LPP are now well-established entities, and reports of follow-up service have been excellent. It may cause some of you a bit more lost-sleep, if and when the product shows signs of trouble, since neither of these companies are truly US-based, like Escort and Blinder, but honestly, no-one has reported problems dealing with either AL direct, from Croatia, nor from either of the two North-American (stateside or Canadian) LPP resellers.

 

In terms of raw jamming power, the AL still seems to have the upper hand - however, on a vehicle of our physical size as well as hardpoint profiles (including the use of a front plate), I would say that two forward-facing heads of either of these two devices will more than sufficiently effect "JTG" of any frontal threat - two heads will "overkill" protection capability. :)

 

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The Laser Interceptor (LI) has now been on-market here in the US for nearly 4 months.

 

The first batch of jammers (Rev 2.7, Ver. 6.09) shipped to the US and distributed was recently been discovered to have a high potential for defective weathersealing of the external jammer heads.

 

This issue - stemming from production-line defects - was actually rather pervasive, and the number of affected heads shipped stateside was estimated to be between 60 to 80 percent of that first batch.

 

The fallout, though, was not realized until just this past month or so, when it seems that the chain-of-command/communication between the US-reseller (whose current status as continued reseller is, well, unknown....) and its Croatian principles seemed disjointed at best, and unavailable at-worst. This disruption/miscommunication led to problems fulfilling replacement of the defective heads (under warranty) for several members of the community - and the final resolution has yet to bear out.

 

In terms of recommending the LI, I still stick by my original statements - that it holds the best performance *promise*. Again, as I've stated oftentimes before, the units tested in the latest GOL "Shootout" were pre-production prototypes (with the LI developer on-hand, no less, to further tweak performance), and various "independent" tests have seen both extremely positive/confirming results, as well as other results which were not as would have been expected.

 

Similarly, my recommendations regarding its purchase still bears such cautions as I've issued before - that its stateside purchase is of the grayest shade of gray-market possible: essentially a cash transaction. Sadly, to add to this is now the fallout of the recent customer-service/warranty-service issue, for which I am, as a customer myself (albeit that I seem to have, so far, gotten lucky, in that my units, although of the same batch, seem to not be suffering such problems via the known diagnostic protocol), rather unhappy about......it currently makes me somewhat hesitant to recommend the LI.

 

To anyone looking to purchase this product, currently, with this year's round of GOL test just over the horizon, I would advise you to simply wait until production-retail results from such comparative testing has been published - and this will also allow you enough time to see exactly how the warranty replacement debacle may (or may not) recover.

 

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This update actually comes at a good time - and I have to thank CTATV for kicking things into gear. :)

 

Very recently - within the last week or so - we've seen a group of people starting to push onto the market a new active laser jammer going by the name of "LaserStar."

 

Little is known about this jammer, except for the fact that it is being marketed by the same principles (as well as ancillary characters) who engendered the collective anger of the speed-detections countermeasures community both here stateside as well as in Europe with a former product that failed to meet any of its claims - on an epic proportion.

 

Combining this fact with the aggressive marketing (many have called their tactics as "SPAMMING") techniques seen on various auto-enthusiast Forums as well as ancillary speed-detections countermeasures Forums (most of the individuals concerned were banned, repeatedly, from the mainstream community Forums), well.....it's hard for me not to say that something does smell fishy.

 

Although I am reluctant to say anything - either positive or negative - about this product, at this time, I do recommend that anyone interested in this product should approach it with due caution, and that they should fully investigate not only the product history itself, but also the connections of the various principles behind this product, as well as why these individuals are perceived so negatively by so many.

 

Solely of my personal opinion, at this time, I am very, very leery of both this product as well as the individuals involved in its active sales and marketing.

<-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges

'16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family

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^ I think the control module should - but that you will have to find a good location to put the visual indicators.

 

The panel I built for mounting my LPP and LI controls is pretty darned big, it's the size of the small project enclosure from RadioShack, turned sideways (wide side).

 

Hopefully,the 9500ci's controls will be smaller.

<-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges

'16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family

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Well, the SR7 Plus's visual indicator was perfect for fiberglassing into the cigarette lighter down behind the shifter. Then, I can close the door to completely conceal it. I would love to do the same thing again...
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That would look very slick indeed!

 

I'll see about pestering some people for dimensions on the display components of the 9500ci. At least that'll give you an early start, and all you'd have to wait for would be details on the jammer's capabilities. :)

<-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges

'16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family

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Just stumbled upon this thread.. So.. Any hints/thoughts as to what I might face in Norcal? And how aggressive the local agents are in detecting/prosecuting jamming?

 

HV

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Unfortunately, I'm of little help in this respect, since I'm not a local -

 

My best advice would be to either register or lurk on the Radardetector.net Forums, and scan/search for local-area information.

 

Sorry! :redface:

<-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges

'16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family

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Unfortunately, I'm of little help in this respect, since I'm not a local -

 

My best advice would be to either register or lurk on the Radardetector.net Forums, and scan/search for local-area information.

 

Sorry! :redface:

 

No problem. Thanks, I'll see when I can find some time.. (in the middle of a major home renovation right now..)

 

HV

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