lcsubaru Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I have an 06 Outback XT. I was on the beach last weekend and the darn traction control couldn't be disabled. Since the sand was pretty soft, the car dug it and there was no way to get out. I had to get the engine RPMs up high enough to overpower the breaks, which of course had the tires spinning way to fast, etc. -- ugly scene with lots of brake dust. But I could *not* find a way to turn off the traction control. If I could, I could have started in second gear, and a small amount of wheel spin would not have been a big deal. Anyone know how to do this in the 06 OB? I couldn't find the switch (although it's in the owners manual, just not in the car), but is there a fuse somewhere or another way to turn it off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix96 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I have an 06 Outback XT. I was on the beach last weekend and the darn traction control couldn't be disabled. Since the sand was pretty soft, the car dug it and there was no way to get out. I had to get the engine RPMs up high enough to overpower the breaks, which of course had the tires spinning way to fast, etc. -- ugly scene with lots of brake dust. But I could *not* find a way to turn off the traction control. If I could, I could have started in second gear, and a small amount of wheel spin would not have been a big deal. Anyone know how to do this in the 06 OB? I couldn't find the switch (although it's in the owners manual, just not in the car), but is there a fuse somewhere or another way to turn it off? The 2006 Outback XT doesn't have traction control. phoenix96 2006 Legacy GT Ltd · 2011 Outback 3.6R Ltd · 1992 SVX 2006 Outback 3.0R VDC · 2009 Forester 2.5X 2002 Outback VDC · 1996 Outback 2.5L · 1986 GL-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerami1981 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 damn, got a subie stuck in the sand...ditto to pheonix, i think only fancy 6 models get any kind of traction control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftride Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 The 2006 Outback XT doesn't have traction control. i think you are *vb gallery* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcsubaru Posted August 1, 2006 Author Share Posted August 1, 2006 then what would explain the burning breaks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargleblaster Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Really, really hot sand? Founder - The Harry F. Johnson Memorial Fund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcsubaru Posted August 1, 2006 Author Share Posted August 1, 2006 something else had to be going on -- when I was in first gear if the engine RPMs started to drop, they would continue to drop until stall as if someone were standing on the breaks. I didn't think the car had traction control, but this behavior had me baffled. The only way to get going was to crank the engine close to redline which would keep the car moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 sand + brakes + calipers = ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLU24 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 clutch burn??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftride Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 they are 'brakes' and that doesnt sound right....how deep was this sand? *vb gallery* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcsubaru Posted August 1, 2006 Author Share Posted August 1, 2006 pretty deep -- but again the wheels wouldn't budge unless the engine RPMs were sufficiently high. If the car bottomed out, the wheels ought to free spin. They would absolutely not move at low RPMs. So, I did the simple math and came up with traction control. obviously wrong according to the posts above, but I'm still stumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcsubaru Posted August 1, 2006 Author Share Posted August 1, 2006 and "no" the handbrake wasn't on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftride Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 wouldn't that just mean you were stuck? i have been off road and climbed some pretty steep/rought trails and the car just creeped up the hill. it has 250hp, but its still a 4 cyl. *vb gallery* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 wouldn't that just mean you were stuck? i have been off road and climbed some pretty steep/rought trails and the car just creeped up the hill. it has 250hp, but its still a 4 cyl.I don't think your tires care how many cylinders there are, or even if there are any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftride Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I don't think your tires care how many cylinders there are, or even if there are any. i was just saying there isnt that much power at slow speeds. i guess more to due with the turbo than the actual number of cylinders. *vb gallery* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 i was just saying there isnt that much power at slow speeds. i guess more to due with the turbo than the actual number of cylinders. auto+turbo=plenty of boost and torque for slow speeds. It sucks a little bit with a MT, but with the DP I make positive pressures very, very low. It just takes a little longer to spool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargleblaster Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 What happens in Subaru AWD systems when no wheels have any grip? Do the diffs go haywire? Does the shifting of power from the wheels that slip to the wheels that... slip... cause a hole in the space-time continuum? I'm going to speculate that all of your wheels were in a 0-grip situation, and they would not spin under low power because the diffs weren't able to route the power anywhere. By raising the RPMs, you 'over-powered' (for lack of a better word) the diffs and got some movement to the wheels. This is completely a guess - someone with knowledge feel free to smack my ass down. Founder - The Harry F. Johnson Memorial Fund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillboy Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Quicksand > Outback It is still ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 In a zero traction environment, all wheels will spin, but it's not good for the diffs. I don't know how it works with the 5EAT though, as the diff is a little different from that of the 5MT. Sounds like it wasn't that the wheels weren't spinning, but that they were just digging their way in due to going too slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 front diff = open IIRC Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 smell was possibly the rear diff and center diff overheating from them constantly trying to lock up and you flooring it My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 open front diff would relieve that problem from overheating... Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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