psi365 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I have been in the market for some time now for a new car and narrowed it down to those two. I trust the technology in the LGT more and the fact that it is a true awd car instead of awd on demand. However two things bug me about it, interior color (not in love with either the rad or blue), and the extra cost for a car with less hp. The MS6 has more power, more "toys", has an all black leather interior, and is cheaper. Problme is that it has awd on demand (haldex) awd, Mazda's new engine with direct fuel injection that they have already have problems with and I don't really love the exterior of it. THen there is another problem if I go with the LGT. I know that the 06's were limited and I know of 3 dealers near me all still with theirs and one is heavily discounted right now. Problem is the 07's have a lot more new features like a 6speed, memory seats, different color (I like either exterior color), and SI drive and a big plus to me is that the 07's have fold down rear seats. I personally want nav whiich is available on both otherwise I would just buy a regular LGT with a stick. So I know this is possibly going to be one sided being this is a LGT website, but just wondering what you all think. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 well. you will get a lot of feedback on here. quick break down. Mazda has "more" horsepower, but its a pig. The weight destroys any power advantage it has. The Mazda AWD system is FWD based and only transfers more power to the rear when needed. Subaru is 50/50 all the time. The Mazda has a Top mount intercooler like the subaru, but NO HOOD SCOOP to help cool it. It just sits on top of the engine and cooks, which results in heat soak making the intercooler next to useless once the car is warmed up. Fake exhuast ports. Mazda was so cheap that they actuall put chrome oval disks in the rear bumber to make it look like it had big pipes. When you look under the car it just a tiny little pipe sticking in there. Mazda=Ford. Never a good thing. Somebody on here please forward this man that AWD comparo article from a few months ago. (Mazda got like 4th or 5th place) (NOTE: you can get a Subaru GT Limited, not the Spec-B and dump about 1-2K into it and it will have 99% of the handling as the Spec B or the Mazda, but save about 4-5K in the initial cost.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Note: '07 Legacy six speed = Spec B only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Note: '07 Legacy six speed = Spec B only extra shift...extra weight...slower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 extra shift...extra weight...slower Stronger, more aftermarket clutches, better control. Didnt want you talking to yourself any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psi365 Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 I thought I heard that the 07 six speed is derived from the Sti which means it is more stout the the current 5 speed right? Just wondering. BTW I am lazy and having that extra gear means more shifting which I don't particularly want to do, but if it is a beefier trans it might be worth it. Thanks for all the info so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisted Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 the mazdaspeed6 was good only on paper....all the hype died down after details were released....infact i havent seen one on the road till date and the local dealership has them by the dozen...no one wants one...must be a reason legacy = better awd, better engine, more mod capability and better bang for ur $. comparing the legacy with an A4 or 330ix would be a fair competition (brand snobbery excluded) but then it will win out on the price and mod factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Stronger, more aftermarket clutches, better control. Didnt want you talking to yourself any more why is it stronger? same as STI? you have made good points, but mine are valid as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Pimp Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 The gear ratios are different for the 6speed in the Spec B and the STI as well as the final drive ratio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psi365 Posted August 1, 2006 Author Share Posted August 1, 2006 Since it is my thread I also had a question or two. DO any aftermarket wheels that would fit a regular LGT fit on a spec B? Also do spec B's have zenon headlights? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Yes............NO:( Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Wheel fitment is the same, headlights are the same. All wheels that fit GT will fit Spec B, and neither have HID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBoy Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 They are selling the MS6 for around $25K ADVERTISED around here...that should tell you how well they sell.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psi365 Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 I know of 3 dealers that still have their 06 spec B's and one is advertising it for $31,000 (sticker $35,5--). THey aren't moving the spec B's easy either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I know of 3 dealers that still have their 06 spec B's and one is advertising it for $31,000 (sticker $35,5--). THey aren't moving the spec B's easy either. Where are you located? Subaru seems to a regionally popular car. It must also be noted that the LGT is a foray into a new market demographic for SOA. It is primarily known for their wagons in the general public and the WRX among performance heads. I had an interesting chat with a WRX owner the other day. I went into a store a couple of days ago and parked right behind a gray WRX. It took me a about 10 minutes to get out of there but the WRX owner was waiting for me in the 100F heat. He was very curious about the Spec. B. He said he noticed the hood scoop and wondered if the car was actually turboed. I didn't tell him that it was a Spec. so the questions he asked were generic LGT ones. The long and short of it was that he said he had no idea Subaru produced a car like that. He said while he loved he WRX, a Subie with the same engine and some luxury was really appealing to him. I got the impression that the WRX was a little too hard core for 3 years worth of everyday transportation. He said he was going to check one out right away. So there you have it: A Subie enthusiast and owner who had no clue there was even such thing an LGT yet alone a Spec. variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psi365 Posted August 3, 2006 Author Share Posted August 3, 2006 In northeastern IL. I live about 30mins from the IL WS border. A little while ago there was a dealer in Chicago ( I want to say Mid City SUbie) had 3-7 Spec B's. By me There are 3 with in 25 miles. If the guy didn't know about LGT''s the same could apply to Mazdaspeed 6's to Mazda guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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