gfxdave99 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060222/AUTO03/602220366/1149 Legacy has leg up on rivals Limited edition spec.B well worth $35,000 Paul and Anita Lienert / The Detroit News It's not too often we drive a performance sedan that is so rare it comes with an individually numbered limited-edition plaque on the console. But that plaque is standard issue on the 2006 Subaru Legacy 2.5GT spec.B, which is being offered for the first time in the United States. The Japanese automaker said it is only making 500 of these spec.Bs (the B denotes the specially designed Bilstein suspension components). We test-drove a $34,620 Legacy spec.B with no options. A destination charge of $625 is included. SHE: Usually I would have built up a real head of steam over something like the spec.B, which costs $12,000 more than the base Legacy. Normally, I would have a lot of fun with items such as that silly plaque and the fancy "spec.B" floor mats. But I have to admit, I really took a shine to the spec.B. Now I know why it has attracted such a loyal following in Japan and Europe before coming to America. I've come around to thinking that it's well worth the money. By the way, I noticed that you don't even have a single dislike listed about this Subaru. Surely, that's a first. HE: Honest, I tried to think of something I didn't like, but I have no real gripes. I just ignored that plaque, by the way. But I can think of no better endorsement than to say I'd love to own one of these cars myself. For our countrified lifestyle and the constantly changing weather conditions here in Michigan, the all-wheel-drive Legacy makes an awful lot of sense, while the turbocharged engine and spec.B package add that intangible entertainment quotient that's missing from so many mid-size sedans. Yes, it's pricy at nearly $35,000, but remember that it's competing with such premium brands as BMW, Audi and Lexus. And, for the most part, the Legacy spec.B meets or exceeds the competition in nearly every significant department. SHE: You just like that "boxer" engine because it remind s you of us. HE: You mean "horizontally opposed?" SHE: I was thinking more along the lines of diametrically opposed. But I happen to agree with you in this case, at least on most points. You get a lot more than an exclusive titanium silver metallic paint job and other cosmetic stuff with the spec.B. You can talk about the performance, but I loved all the safety features, which are standard across the board on Legacy. They include front side air bags, side curtain air bags for both rows, active front head restraints and antilock brakes. Unfortunately, you don't get traction or stability control, which is standard on lower-priced competitors such as the Audi A4 Quattro. HE: The A4 costs less, but it's also a smaller sedan than the Legacy. And not nearly as quick or fun to drive. Subaru has really done a nice job with the turbocharged 2.5-liter boxer engine, which feels more like a six-cylinder than a four. The five-speed manual gearbox is slick as a whistle, and the handling is crisp and responsive. The Bilstein shocks and struts make a world of difference in both the ride quality and the control, even with the optional mud-and-snow tires on our test vehicle. The weather was mostly cooperative during the week that we tested the spec. B, but I suspect you could have a riot driving this car even in a blizzard. SHE: I'm confused. According to the spec sheet, that Subaru turbo engine makes 250 horsepower, which seems pretty potent. But the new Toyota Camry that I tested recently had a 3.5-liter V-6 that was rated at 268 horsepower. So why did the spec. B feel so much faster? HE: It's all in the torque curve and the tuning. The Subaru is a little bit lighter than the Toyota, but the acceleration is phenomenal. It takes nearly nine seconds for the Camry V-6 to get from zero to 60, while the spec.B does the same sprint in around six and a half seconds. He drove, she drove Anita and Paul Lienert are partners in the Ann Arbor-based Lienert & Lienert, an automotive information services company. PS i'd be pissed if my spec.b did o-60 in 6.5 sec If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melayout Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Spec B and Ann Arbor(Go Blue) FTW I keed I keeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlxmas Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 i think most of us could squeeze a lil better than a 6.5 0-60. Dont yall think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthworm Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 What's up with their survey results? "Unacceptable?" http://premium1.uploadit.org/yevans//spec_b_survey.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt4Me Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 We have Re92's, we don't need no stinking traction control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rely18 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 What's up with their survey results? "Unacceptable?" My guess would be that most of the poor votes are coming from people that are judging solely on the "Subaru" name tag. Face it, we come from a select crowd and you will always have people that have certain baises when it comes to cars like this. I bet most of the unfavorable votes came from drivers that have never seen the spec.B let alone driven one. Its easy to click a button on a computer screen and I doubt the audience was a favorable one for the cause. There are a good amount of positive votes though... probably from all the visitors from this site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060222/AUTO03/602220366/1149 even with the optional mud-and-snow tires on our test vehicle Are there optional all seasons available? Krzys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoman Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 What's up with their survey results? "Unacceptable?" http://premium1.uploadit.org/yevans//spec_b_survey.JPG I'm guessing it's mostly bitter readers in Detroit. It's very rare that a Detroit newspaper gives a shining review of a Japanese car. Since there are only 500 Spec B's, we know 99% of the voters have never even seen a Spec B to base their opinion on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 The SpecB needed more power than the GT. This was the downfall Moved to news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Are there optional all seasons available? KrzysNot really, although dealer can probably order some M&S tires from TireRack. But the only M&S 215/45/R18 tire at TireRack is the Pirelli PZero Nero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fzanetti Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 The SpecB needed more power than the GT. This was the downfall Moved to news Exactly!!! To be a special edition, all tweaked up , bla bla bla, cannot only have better suspension an an exquisite leather color.... WE NEED MPRE powa!!!!!! Prob why they were complaining... Flavio Zanetti Boston, MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 More morons who are commenting on something they haven't cared enough to even find out about. THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL that the Legacy, spec B or otherwise, is "Unnacceptable." Brand snobs, anti-import zealots, and just ignorants have to be the reason. Although I do agree with Rclark and Fzanetti... that the Spec B should be a bit more differentiated from the GT than it is, for the price. More power would be nice. Actual content improvement otherwise could help, too. 500 cars of one color can be understood for a short time. If the rumors are right that it is going to contine with another single color option, and even fewer units, that is going to be even more dissappointing, especially if it does get the more content we talk about, like a 6MT with VTD AWD. This "My way or the highway" configuration :bs: from SOA has to STOP! it isn't doing the Spec B any favors, and SOA is probably going to think that people just don't want these features, when their planning decisions are what are hampering the sales of the Spec B. BTW: the A4 2.0T Quattro is only cheaper than the spec b WITHOUT any additional options. The Spec B has Very few additional options, like a spoiler, and some general accessories, like compass mirror... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovied Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 +1 The SpecB needed more power than the GT. This was the downfall Moved to news ______________ tHe HoV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Posted: Wed. 02/22/06 11:21 PM From: H. Risher City: Greensburg, In USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: Just another freaky-styled ,cheaply built tin and plastic piece of Japanese junk that will rust and lose it's value faster than any car build by an American -Owned Company. Remember PEARL HARBOR-Keep your money where live -the United States of America. The greedy Japanese are here for ONE REASON -to take as much American money back to their Japanese homeland as possible. Don't be fooled by the Jap motives-American owned and built cars and trucks are better in the long run and your money stays Home-THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE YOU SEND YOUR HARD-EARNED CASH to the ones who planned the Peacetime,Sneak Attack on America at Pearl Harbor!! Posted: Wed. 02/22/06 06:12 PM From: Kurt City: America, co USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: Subaru have always been for the losers in the group. I have a co-worker that ownes one. She swears at it, not by it. I can't believe that they sell any of them here. People are so stupid. Posted: Wed. 02/22/06 09:32 AM From: Tom Seubert City: Roseville, MI USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: Too Bland and too expensive to be considered a good sedan. Posted: Wed. 02/22/06 08:19 AM From: Ken Oberham City: Seattle, WA USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: I had a Subaru a few years a go. I couldn't beleive how many times I had to bring it back for warrenty repairs. I'll never buy another Subaru. UNRELIABLE!!! Posted: Wed. 02/22/06 07:24 AM From: Toyota Tom City: , USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: Styling is too weird. People like predictable, blan, generic; so toyotas soars & subaru sinks. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 More morons who are commenting on something they haven't cared enough to even find out about. THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL that the Legacy, spec B or otherwise, is "Unnacceptable." Brand snobs, anti-import zealots, and just ignorants have to be the reason. I try not to pat my own back... but sometimes something like this comes up... and I just can't help it. I guess I was right when I posted the above. The only two comments that aren't COMPLETELY insane, are the ones about reliability problems, which are of course, completely unverifiable, and have the tendency to be figments of people's imaginations (a freind of mine had this problem...), or exaggerated to justify an otherwise uninformed opinion. Maybe one person had a lemon. There have been a couple of them on the forum. But the rest of them are remarkably uninformed. I am going to buy my Subaru, and SMOKE fools like this out on the open road. The Domestic Zealot at the top of the list is hilarious in context of how GM and Ford are doing lately. He is probably a UAW worker that is paid (well more than I make) to sit in the lounge, or at home all day, because union regulations say he can't be fired, and the company can't find anything simple enough for him to actually do. It isn't about american cars or import cars. It is about people who care enough to find out about things, and people who are knee-jerk ignorant morons. Posted: Wed. 02/22/06 07:24 AM From: Toyota Tom City: , USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: Styling is too weird. People like predictable, blan, generic; so toyotas soars & subaru sinks. Yah shure. Legacy is just a crazy looking car. Not like the ass-end of an 05 Accord. You couldn't pay me to buy a bland and generic sedan. I am not sure whether to LMAO, or obliterate each and every one of these... But I am not going to argue with morons, as people might not be able to tell the difference. (a personal policy that I occaisionally have to remind myself of...) However... one last comment, more toward subaru combatting this sort of mindset. THIS IS WHY Subaru needs a new Halo car or a few. A sedan that will KICK ASS and take names. Something undeniable to get the attention of the few people who have an opinion like those listed above that still might be capable of changing. (forget the ones that won't... lost cause, and who cares.) A new utilitarian GT sport coupe. A hot hatch. A sporty people hauler. (something less of a crossover between Car and SUV... More of Sports car crossed with Wagon with a tad bit more space, like no minivan you've ever seen, with AWD.) Something BETTER than any other company, or something DIFFERENT than every other company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecB405 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 +1 Thanks to information available on this site, 250 starting HP for my Spec B has not been a problem! Stg2+ protuned. Mid High 4's 0-60. Nice in my book. It should be the next $1500 option from the factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmarton Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Not to change the subject, but I wish they'd get rid of Anita and just let Paul do the columns in the Detroit News. She's worthless. And if you read the whole article, Paul gave the Spec.B 5 out 5 starts and listed no complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameMax Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 What's up with their survey results? "Unacceptable?" http://premium1.uploadit.org/yevans//spec_b_survey.JPG Well ALMOST anything automotive related that comes out of Detriot is a bunch of garbage anyways, For an automotive journalist a 0-60 in 6.5 seconds is just bad driving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 This is good... What do you think of the 2006 Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT spec.B? 1. Unacceptable 8.96% 2. Subpar 9.28% 3. Acceptable 10.95% 4. Above Average 21.23% 5. World Class 49.58% This isn't: seems like a lot of lies and made up crap. Posted: Thu. 02/23/06 09:03 PM From: Hallie City: charlotte, NC USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: I HATE SUBARUS! I bought a new Sti a couple of year a go, and it drove me crazy with all of it's problems. I was in the service repair area WEEKLY! If you know anything about cars, STAY AWAY FROM SUBARU! Posted: Thu. 02/23/06 11:09 PM From: H.Risher City: Greensburg, In USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: Guess we smoked out a few Traitors among us with Kimmi Yamamoto and Messha Lee's anti-American comments:"japanese culture is superior and will rule all someday!" and "All japanese cars will rule the U.S. soon!" They represent the same arrogant attitude toward America and Americans demonstrated by the Imperial Jap Dictatorship and Military Bosses (Admiral Yamato ironically was a top Jap Militarist who planned the sneak attacks on America!) This same cocky Jap attitude as demonstrated by these two anti-American comments should not only be the BEST reason to buy and support American-OWNED cars and products ,but more importantly be a wakeup call to all REAL Americans who are not apathetic and totally ignorant of History to support America anew. There are truly enemies among us as wittnessed by 911. Unfortunately ,the "'War" is not really over, The War to control auto manufacturing ,trade,and industrailization in general has been ongoing. Sounds just like the years leading to WWI and WWII in most ways doesn't it? Too bad those ignorant of History just make simplistic summations like "The war is over!" to such a serious threat and situation. Consider the aforementioned arrogant,projap,statements once again BEFORE you invest you American money in a car made by Japanese=owned companies. There are traitors among us ,and unfortunately American taxpayers often foot their college tuitions!!Would these people help defend us in time of Waror ever purchase an American made car?? Doubtful!!Buy American-OWNED Autos-Keep your hard earned cash at Home! Posted: Fri. 02/24/06 08:49 AM From: matt r. City: troy, mi USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: kimmi yamamoto: superior? i think not. your Superior japanese government unfairly holds their currency down and fixes financial markets to give their own manufacturers an advantage. and as far as quality goes i used to drive a toyota and it was back at the dealer at least once a month. as was the nissan that my parents used to own. after these pieces of junk were sold off at a small fraction of what we paid we bought all gm and ford and have not had a problem in over a decade. so much for the fabled jap quality. Posted: Fri. 02/24/06 09:51 AM From: lr City: small town, mn USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: Re: Hallie's comments on Subaru's - I hear you, sister...My roommate several years ago had a Subaru and it was one huge piece of junk. Every time she turned the ignition off the car backfired, really loud. Whatever the problem was it was never fully fixed despite several repairs, it still backfired a lot. Additionally, it was a manual transmission and really hard to shift. The clutch was rebuilt but it still shifted hard. The only car I ever saw that shifted harder than that Subaru was my sister-in-law's old Toyota Tercel and that clutch was just plain stripped...the Tercel was finally junked a couple of years ago, I don't know what ever happened to that Subaru, the former roommate moved back to Florida. I used to try to give the Leinert's the benefit of the doubt, now I'm certain that they're both nuts. Posted: Fri. 02/24/06 06:11 PM From: David McGuire City: Boston, MA USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: I've never seen a Subaru that wasn't JUNK! From their horizintally opposed engine, to cheap materials, to their ability to rust out in record time! Not every Japanese car company makes great cars. Subaru isn't Honda or Toyota. Think more along the lines of Suzuki when it comes to design and quality. Subaru is the TRUE BOTTOM FEEDER of Japanese cars. The Japanese Yugo if you will. If you're smart, buy something....make that ANYTHING else! Posted: Sat. 02/25/06 12:10 AM From: Risher is 100% Correct ! City: Greensburg, In USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: Reader H. Risher hit the nail on the head squarely when he exposed the Racist ,Anti-American comments made earlier by the Japanese writers Kimmi Yamamoto and Messha Lee. They said "Japan's culture is superior and will rule all someday" and 'All Japanese cars will rule the US soon". All any real American has to do is reject this arrogant, anti-American Racisim by rejecting the products of this selfselfing Jap hatred by turning your backs on their cheaply enginered cars made by low paid ,third-world wage slaves. You are right Mr Richer-Simply let your purchase of cars and products made by American-OWNED companies reject the type of arrogant Jap hatred for everything American. It's great to see from these Japanese comments who OUR REAL ENEMY STILL IS-Keep your Money in the USA=Buy AMERICAN-Owned,don't let your money go to ASIA where it can build weapons against US!!! To the coward who made comments for these Japanese Racists -why are you too chicken to sign your real name??? You must be one of them,so take your Subaru and join them in the land of the Rising Sun! Posted: Sat. 02/25/06 02:03 PM From: David McGuire City: Boston, MA USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: To Mike from Portland, you say that Subaru is #1 in quality? Gee, I thought Lexus held that honor. I don;t remeber seeing Subaru at the top of the J.D. Power quality heap. When I think of the typical Subaru buyer, I think "poverty stricken" or "dumb" because only people in those two market segments buy Subarus. Probably voted for Bush too. As for the other products Subaru's parent company builds and your pathetic attempt to draw a parallel between the quality of those products and Subarus is a laugh. If Subarus are so popular with the Japanese buying public at home as you claim, then why is Subaru one of the slowest selling cars in Japan? If it wasn't for some stupid Americans buying them, they would've been out of business long ago. The U.S. is their biggest market. No one else wants them! Why did they need to find a company to buy them so they could survive? Because they couldn't survive on thier own due to lack of volume and lack of marketshare which gets right back to what everyone says about car companies, domestic and foreign: "If they don't build quality vehicles, customers will buy elsewhere." Here in New England it takes about 4 years for Subarus to develop rust holes big enough to put your fist through. They're JUNK and always have been. As for comparing their horizontally oposed engine to Porsche's, Porsche knows how to build them right, not so they need a complete overhaul by 70,000 miles like every Subaru. As for the interior materials you say are "quality" materials, they look about as good as something out of a mid-'80s Chevy Cavalier or Ford Escort. Even the domestics don't make interiors as cheap looking as Subarus anymore. Subarus are a niche market car that appeals to weirdos...kinda like those loyal to the almost out of business Saab....Speaking of Saab, how are those rebadged Subaru Imprezas selling as Saab 9-2's? They're not! Even Saab buyers with the lowest of quality expectations can't bring themselves to buy a rebadged Subaru! Saab has higher volume expectations of the rebadged Chevy Trail Blazer, the Saab 9-7 SUV, than they do selling your beloved WRX Imprezas. But, I can't think of two brands that deserve each other more than Saab and Subaru as they wallow in their mutual insignifigance and ultimate demise. Posted: Sat. 02/25/06 04:34 PM From: Kelly Malatesta City: florence, KY USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: Subaru's are JUNK! Just because you get some moron who has had a subaru for 14 years, and is probably lying about not having any problems with it, doesn't make it a quality car. I have seen personaly, the cost of owning a Subaru. Three years a go I bought a Subaru STI. That thing was in the shop for four of the first eight months I had it. ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS. TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS. INTERIOR PEICES FALLING OFF OVER RAILROAD TRACKS. BRAKES THAT WOULD PULL TO ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS. And I wasn't alone wasting my days sitting in a cramped little chair at the Subaru dealership, watching the time pass. That place was full of complaining owners who had the same if not more problems with thiers. So if you want a quality car? STAY WAY FROM SUBARU. By the way, I'm starting to have problems with my new Toyota Sienna van now. It only has 4000 miles on it. What the hell are these japanese car companies doing? must be a bunch of MORONS slapping these things together. I will buy domestic next time around. NO MORE LIES JAPAN! Posted: Sat. 02/25/06 05:48 PM From: Dave City: holland, oh USA Subject: Subaru_Legacy_25GTspecB_06 Comments: well i own a Subaru and it IS a piece of JUNK!!!! In the shop 2 weeks after i bought it and never gone over a year without a problem, you love them so much buy this one !!! it will be in the classifieds soon ! I will now be supporting american companies whenever possible, and after reading a lot of comments, all you foreign car lovers seem proud that Japanese auto makers are taking over the world, you should go live in Japan, but don't get a job at a car plant there, because they are all unionized by the JAW (Japenese Auto Workers), and that would be hypocritical of most of the union bashing you post on here. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Wow. And people talk about politics being devisive. Is there some pool of defective subarus that we just don't know about, that are all being sold to UAW employees in the greater midwest? This is contrary to just about everything I have ever heard about Subarus, and not all of that has been truly positive, but never this viscious... "...probably voted for Bush, too" I got the impression that most mainstream subaru buyers were fairly liberal. (Legacy buyers perhaps a bit more evenly split, Outback, forester, and impreza buyers being more politically left of center... and WRX and STI buyers being to busy street racing to worry about politics... ) Most of the above comments seem like sheer emotional knee-jerk reactions. People talking about problematic cars, but never saying what the problems are... except rust, which is an OLD (like 15 years ago...) issue, now that pretty much EVERY car is made of plastics and *galvanized* steel. Subaru's horizontal engine is Junk? Bottom feeder? Roomate several years ago had a backfiring subaru... (could have been a decade or more old THEN, and beaten to death, how do we know? How is this sound reasoning with no details?) Had a toyota and a nissan, they sucked, now have had ford and GM for over a decade... What toyota and nissan from a decade past? How old were they THEN? This is just rampant gushing BS. It isn't even worth trying to understand enough to try to DISPROVE it. It is amazing to me that people in the land of the free have locked down their own minds with blind emotional fervor, against something that really needn't be a problem. So they don't like Subarus or Japanese cars. So don't buy 'em. it is a free market, whether they like it or not... but these people feel the need to browbeat Subaru, and each other on the internet. that says something about them. All this in response to a favorable review of a 500-unit run of cars that they have probably never even HEARD OF, let alone seen in person. not that we don't rant around here some... but even heated debate around here tends to go back to some sort of rational ground most of the time. It isn't even as if the original article had anything to do with saying the Subaru was directly better than any other car, domestic, or imported. (even though there isn't much domestically offered in this class... and R&T seemed to like the LGT Spec b...) This is very be-fuddling... I am not sure if I should be worried about this sort of mindset, or just ignore it. (I don't want my NICE future SUBARU to be keyed or defaced by people weilding such insanity!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 The detroit hacks are slowly voting it as unacceptable... If you haven't, vote and help tip the scales in a positive spin. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaruFlamingo Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 legacy gt + ann arbor = ftw 2x go blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fzanetti Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 legacy gt + ann arbor = ftw 2x go blue HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA Flavio Zanetti Boston, MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCL28 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Here's what I posted on the Detroit News' comments board. I personally do not own the Spec B, but I do own the non-turbo 2.5i base Legacy. I, as many other people bought it for their own reasons. When I was deciding on this purchase in September of 2005, I had a selection of cars that I was considering. I first thought about the Pontiac G6 and Mazda 6(buy not the Ford Fusion as it would be redundant as it along with the Mercury Milan and Lincoln Zephyr share the same basic platform and powertrain). It seemed to fulfill all of my basic needs or desires. I was turned on by the price to ammentity ratio especially. With all of the applicable discounts, I would have been able to get the G6 for thousands less than the Legacy. Additionally, I would have had many features on the G6 that I didn't have on the Legacy such as a sunroof, leather, and CD changer. However, I realised that although I may not be seeing many G6s on the road at this moment, soon I would. I knew with Pontiac being a high volume selling company, everybody and their mom would have a G6 soon. Looking out on the road now, my prediction has proved positive. One may ask why then I choose the Legacy over the G6 and others. I would have had way more creature comforts going with other cars over the Subaru My answer can be found in the sales. I didn't want to be like everybody else. I didn't want to be stopped at a redlight next to the same exact car as mine. Not to say that the G6 isn't a good car, I was quite impressed by it. I believe the car may be good for other people, just not me. This is after years of driving high volume selling cars including a 1993 and 1997 Toyota Camry(each of which went well over 200,000 miles with not one problem outside of routine maintenace and regular wear and tear). Those Camrys were one of the few things I could rely on like finding prejudice and bigotry against minorities in Metro Detroit. Never once did either of those cars leave me stranded. But what may surprise some of you a 2002 Chevrolet Trailblazer(which had undergone a few recalls several suspension problems among other things over 50,000 miles and has stranded me twice because of GMs "genius" Passlock theft deterent system). So the real point of this story is that I wanted to separate myself from the pack. Subarus in general sell in low volumes as it is a niche market. As I did want a car built in America, the Legacy being assembled in Indian met that criteria. Which is more than what I can say for something such as the Ford Fusion or Mercury Milan being built in Hermosillo, MEXICO. Additionally, for anyone who thinks that Consumer Reports is biased toward foreign cars, Japanese cars specifically. This is simply not true. They have and do recomend many "American" cars. I trust Consumer Reports and their parent company Consumers Union. This is in contrast with the fact that I have little trust or believe some of the things that J.D. Powers and Associates publish. I personally trust J.D. Powers as far as I can throw them. Furthermore, before you bash a car, would it not be wise to drive it first or at least look at it in person. And I'm going to be that most of those who bashed the Spec B have never actually seen one up close. There are only going to be 500 built in 2006. For those of you who don't know what a calendar is. That is 500 cars being built over 12 months. We have by those numbers, a little over 83 have been produced thus far for the WHOLE country. Therefore the chance of you actually seeing this specific model in person I'm guessing are slim to none unless you have gone to one of the auto shows. Which even if you did attend an auto show, the probability that you actually took out the time to look at the Spec B with your racist and/or biased point of views is extremely low. Also, I must say that I am disappointed by the amount of racial slurs found in earlier comments by others. I don't care what your preconcieved notions are, but the term "Jap" is just as bad as the "N" word. I would also like to take a feel for the thoughs that some of you may have been thinking. The comments made by those of Kimmi Yamamoto and Messha Lee do sound really bad until one realizes that those names are probably fecticious. Those names fit the stereotypical mold that many Americans have for what an Asian name should sound like. In fact, those probably weren't actually Japanese people writing those comments. If anyone were to step back and study Japanese culture and personal relations would know that ACTUAL Japanese people generally don't talk in that manner. For those of you who actually believed that Japanese people wrote that, you've been had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direavenger Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 ^^^ I had no idea that the Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan were built in Mexico. Now that's just funny. The Dude - Two inches and counting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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