Lextacy02 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 ok so i just installed a pioneer Avic-N2 everything works fine except the radio reception. The XM works fine but the AM/FM doesnt come in for sh*t. i bought on of those motorolla male antenna adapters or whatever its called to go from the stock radio plug into the hide away unit with the antenna they give you. the only station that comes in is the 1 local radio station. nothing else but on the stock radio 8 or 9 stations come in perfect. i tried something i unplugged the antenna and the local radio station still came in , so i guess the antenna is doing nothing. anyone else with a N-2 have this problem or anyonw with any sugestions thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fweasel Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Its been suggested by another member that the stock radio has an FM amplifier built into it. I do not have the Pioneer, but my new Kenwood also gets worse reception than the stock unit. I live in Chicago. You can pick-up a radio station with a q-tip, 9-volt, and a piece of aluminum foil, so it shouldn't be hard to get reception in a car. While stealth looking, I think our glass mounted FM antenna is a crap design to begin with. ignore him, he'll go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextacy02 Posted February 9, 2006 Author Share Posted February 9, 2006 so what do you suggest that i do to get better reception. is there some kind of amplifier i can by or better antenna or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fweasel Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 so what do you suggest that i do to get better reception. is there some kind of amplifier i can by or better antenna or something I remember reading a post about someone trying an amplifier they bought from crutchfield or something. Search the Audio/Interior forum for that one. I don't listen to the radio often enough to make it work investing time/money in a fix. ignore him, he'll go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoman Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I have the avic n2 and I think the reception is not quite as good as the stock stereo, but it is still excellent. I think people expect too much from analog FM radio and blame our in-glass antennas. If you think our reception is bad, you should experience the relatively poor reception in most GM vehicles. Our cars already have an antenna amplifier mounted in the rear pillar. When you installed your avic n2 did you connect the antenna power lead? This is important because the amplifier will not turn on withou this connection to the receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fweasel Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Ooooo, tell me more about the antenna power lead. Is it marked on a metra harness like a standard power antenna wire (blue w/ white stripe)? I did not install my HU and I could easily see my installer not making that connection without the presence of a standard power antenna on the car. ignore him, he'll go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmanus88 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 i have the avic-n2 and the radio reception is excellent. i let professionals install this thing because its pretty intracate, and ive never had a problem. maybe you messed something up during install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoman Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Ooooo, tell me more about the antenna power lead. Is it marked on a metra harness like a standard power antenna wire (blue w/ white stripe)? I did not install my HU and I could easily see my installer not making that connection without the presence of a standard power antenna on the car. The antenna power control lead on the AVIC-N2 is blue. This lead should be connected to the blue/white lead on your aftermarket wiring harness. The AVIC-N2 actually has a second lead to be used for controlling an amplifier. The amplifer remote lead is blue/white on the AVIC-N2's harness. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_11221/210997014AVICN2InstallationManual.pdf This is why I wouldn't let an installer touch my car. They don't know many of the small details of the Legacy GT since they are not as common as a Chevrolet, for example. Most installers won't take the time to read the Subaru tech manuals either to understand how the car's electrical system works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fweasel Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 The antenna power control lead on the AVIC-N2 is blue. This lead should be connected to the blue/white lead on your aftermarket wiring harness. This is why I wouldn't let an installer touch my car. They don't know many of the small details of the Legacy GT since they are not as common as a Chevrolet, for example. Most installers won't take the time to read the Subaru tech manuals either to understand how the car's electrical system works. Thanks for the tip on the power lead. I'm very confident in my installer's ability which is why I drive so far out of my way to use them. It's very understandable, to me anyway, that even an experienced installer would overlook the power lead connection. The Subaru harness is the same for all models, including those with traditional retractable power antennas. Personally, if I'm not using a particualr wire (i.e. factory speakers, power antenna, light dimmer) I won't make the connection to the harness and will tape off the end. I don't think it's fair to blanket the Legacy as such a unique install that most professionals connot handle it. ignore him, he'll go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoman Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Did your installer find a way to connect the speed sensor lead? I'm curious, because I'm still working on this one myself, and I own the Subaru electrical diagram manuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmanus88 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 well, i didn't ask him about thh install really. i pay, it works, im happy . what i can say is that when i view the speedometer gauge in the avic-n2, its dead-on with the legacy's speed sensor. it goes right down to the decimal, in fact. i guess that answers your question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fweasel Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Did your installer find a way to connect the speed sensor lead? I'm curious, because I'm still working on this one myself, and I own the Subaru electrical diagram manuals. There's a green/black wire under the hood, passenger side near the ABS, that's your signal. Member daswrx sent me that in a PM, he's using the Kenwood NAV. The system I'm having installed does not require a speed signal pulse. ignore him, he'll go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoman Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 There's a green/black wire under the hood, passenger side near the ABS, that's your signal. Member daswrx sent me that in a PM, he's using the Kenwood NAV. The system I'm having installed does not require a speed signal pulse. I will have to try this out. I have heard that the actual speed signal comes from the ABS unit, but I have not had time to try searching for it yet. I hope you're right!!! That would solve the issues I'm having with positioning accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoman Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 well, i didn't ask him about eh install really. i apy, it works, im happy . what i can say is that when i view the speedometer gauge in the avic-n2, its dead-on with the legacy's speed sensor. it goes right down to the decimal, in fact. i guess that answers your question? Not really... the AVIC-N2 will display the correct speed as long as it has a good confidence factor from the GPS receiver, but it doesn't truly know exactly what distance you have travelled. For example, my AVIC-N2 displays the correct speed until I enter a tunnel. After entering the tunnel, it thinks I am travelling over 90 MPH when I'm really doing 60 MPH. It can't keep track of the distance traveled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmanus88 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 i dunno what to say, everything works great for me, the boys at 6th ave electronics have installed amny of these units and are experienced, maybe they know something you (and i) don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextacy02 Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 that antenna wire the blue one is already hooked up and the reception is still horrible when i mean horrible i dont get any stations i have been in 100s of different cars and never ever has the reception been nearly this bad there is no reception what so ever i dont know what else to do???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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