legacy 2006 under bullet attack!

[dkodyl]

The father and son from Red Lodge were shot at and their Chevrolet Suburban was damaged when a man opened fire in what prosecutors say was a case of mistaken identity.

 

Anthony Rollins Jr., 31, pleaded not guilty Thursday at his arraignment in District Court on three felony charges of assault with a weapon. Judge Susan Watters set his bond at $100,000 after prosecutors said Rollins, who uses the street name ‘‘Amp’’ and has several drug-related convictions in Indiana, is accused of firing at the Robinsons eight times with a .380-caliber semiautomatic handgun.

 

According to court records, here’s how the incident unfolded:

 

On Jan. 6, Ernest Robinson was driving as he and his teenage son visited car lots in Billings. While they were leaving the lot of Rimrock Subaru on 24th Street West at about 10:30 p.m., they heard gunfire and realized that someone was shooting at them. Matthew Robinson said he looked across the street and saw the muzzle flash of a gun pointed at them.

 

Ernest Robinson said he drove away quickly but had to pull over when the engine of the Suburban began to steam and smoke. By chance, they pulled into the Casa Village trailer park where they saw the man they believed had been shooting at them leaving in a red Buick. Matthew Robinson called 911 on a cell phone.

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Within minutes of the 911 call, police dispatchers received another call from Joseph Stephens III. Stephens reported that Anthony ‘‘Amp’’ Mathis had just been at his residence in Casa Village and had shot at a Suburban before driving away in a red Buick.

 

Prosecutors said Rollins also uses the last name Mathis.

 

Stephens said Rollins had been in a fight with a man known as Simon earlier that evening and mistakenly shot the green Suburban thinking it was Simon’s green Chevrolet Tahoe.

 

When officers arrived, they spoke to Simon’s wife, who said she was at a restaurant with her husband that evening when they were confronted by Rollins and a man known as ’’Demon.’’ The men got into a fight at the restaurant, she said.

 

Stephens said he was at the restaurant when Rollins confronted Simon. Before blows were exchanged, Rollins ran toward his car but fell. Simon then beat on Rollins before leaving with Stephens in a green Chevrolet Tahoe.

 

Stephens said he dropped Simon at a convenience store, and then returned to his residence at Casa Village. He said Rollins arrived there with a handgun and rushed at Stephens, threatening to shoot him. A woman with Rollins then yelled that Simon was in a green Suburban across the street at the Subaru dealership. Stephens said he tried to tell Rollins that Simon was not in the Suburban, but Rollins started shooting at the vehicle. Officers later found eight spent bullet casings.

 

Rollins and the woman then drove off, Stephens said. Officers located them a short time later at the Wal-Mart parking lot, where Rollins was arrested. He told officers a man named ’’Big Joe’’ had threatened him with a handgun and beat him with the weapon. Officers said Rollins was cut on the back of his head.

 

Police officers said an employee of Rimrock Subaru gave them a bullet and reported that a 2006 Subaru Legacy had been struck by the gunfire.

[gfxdave99]

Lol you beat me.. here is the orig url fyi

 

http://www.helenair.com/articles/2006/01/20/montana/a06012006_03.txt

[petmor]

Americas finest huh!? I know I'm sticking my hand into your hornets nest, but why are you so gun crazy? Do you feel safer walking around with a gun??

I know I'd feel very insecure knowing that one could be shot at anytime like the above story.

[Nsaglibene]

Your never gonna be able to take the guns out of the wrong people's hands, thats the problem.

[gfxdave99]

Kevlar lined doors FTW

[john_knoxville]

Rollins.... is accused of firing at the Robinsons eight times with a .380-caliber semiautomatic handgun.

that should only be a misdemeanor

[IwannaSportSedan]

Americas finest huh!? I know I'm sticking my hand into your hornets nest, but why are you so gun crazy? Do you feel safer walking around with a gun??

I know I'd feel very insecure knowing that one could be shot at anytime like the above story.

 

Your never gonna be able to take the guns out of the wrong people's hands, thats the problem.

 

That is why the law should not take the guns out of the hands of the good people... The bad people will have guns whether they are legal or not. The only people impacted by gun control legislation are the people who would not break, but respect the law in the first place.

 

With an armed populace, at least, some of the wrong people might thing twice about attacking or destroying people or property under the threat of retaliation, and at worst, the good people have a chance if ever under attack.

 

Most people don't walk around with guns, BTW. Many own guns, but not all of those carry weapons on their person at any given time. And legal gun ownership does not increase crime rates.

 

"One could be shot at anytime like the above story" at any time anyway. Look at the terrorist attacks in London or Madrid, where gun control is in effect, they used bombs, but how is that less than a gun? A criminal or terrorist could carry a gun more easily than a bomb, and shoot "one" where "one" stands anyway. And all the police can do is show up later, outline you with chalk, and file a report. The deed is done.

 

An armed law-abiding citizen isn't going to shoot you with their gun anyway. Gun ownership is not a provocation for lawlessness, although the reverse is sometimes true, which creates the issue.

[andrew.anderson]

The more law abiding citizens that bear arms the better the world will be.

See below article:

 

Israeli law requires that a person have a license in order to own any kind of firearm, but the license is readily available to any law-abiding adult who can show he or she has had firearms training. (Israel has universal military training for Jews of both sexes). And if you legally possess a gun, Israel allows--indeed encourages--carrying it. In effect, Israeli law nearly parallels that of Florida, Pennsylvania and 28 other U.S. states where licenses to carry a concealed firearm are available on application and passing a background check. (Vermonters have the right to carry without obtaining a license).

Nevertheless, though rapidly growing, gun ownership is low in Israel--because it is unnecessary. Israel is a socialist country, so the government is supposed to provide people all their basic needs, including guns for self defense. Israel loans out guns by the millions to its citizens.

Israelis going to a dangerous area routinely stop by a police station or communal armory to pick up an Uzi or a pistol. Israeli policy is that armed guardians should be near every place there are potential victims. Schools may not send children on field trips unless the children are accompanied by at least one teacher or parent carrying a gun.

At night, many neighborhoods are patrolled by "civil guards"--teenage volunteers carrying government-issued guns. If someone has disappeared (and possibly has been kidnaped), dozens, scores or even hundreds of civilian volunteer searchers are assembled and issued firearms to carry while searching for the missing person.

So widespread is this issuing of arms that it fundamentally affects Israeli firearms training. Since most pistols are not personally owned, Israelis are trained to keep them in "Condition 2" (cartridges in magazine, but not chambered). This is because the pistol a trainee may be issued at any particular future time could be any of the myriad of guns in Israeli arsenals: a Browning M-35 (Hi-Power); a Walther P-38; a Beretta Modello 1951 (Brigadeer); or even the French Modeles 1935A or 1950, or the Polish Pistolet wz/35 (Radom) or Czech CZ vz/27.

No matter how unfamiliar the recipient may be with a pistol issued him, one technique suits all: Condition 2 is a safe method of carry when there is no need for immediate use, and when all one need do is jack the slide to have the firearm ready for use.

Israel`s "guns everywhere" policy accounts for incidents such as the one in which three terrorists opened up with AK-47s on a Jerusalem crowd. The terrorists were able to kill only one victim before they were themselves shot down by handgun-carrying Israelis.

The surviving terrorist was bitter when he spoke to the press the next day. Their plan had been to quickly kill 20 or 30 people at a series of public places, always escaping before military or police could arrive. They hadn`t known Israeli civilians were armed. The terrorist felt that it just wasn`t "fair."

Incidentally, this occurred within three weeks of the massacre of 21 unarmed victims in a San Ysidro, California, McDonald`s fast-food restaurant.

Whatever their purpose, European anti-gun laws have miserably failed.

[Jon in CT]

Chevrolet Suburban != Subaru Legacy

[LEGGTLTD]

Uhh, cliff notes maybe?

[jj808]

The more law abiding citizens that bear arms the better the world will be.

See below article:

 

In effect, Israeli law nearly parallels that of Florida, Pennsylvania and 28 other U.S. states where licenses to carry a concealed firearm are available on application and passing a background check. (Vermonters have the right to carry without obtaining a license).

 

What states? Is it allowed in only that state? If im a resident of one of those states but dwell in another (Military relocation) how does it change things?

[IwannaSportSedan]

Evidently the Suburban was the target, and the 06 Legacy at the car lot where it took place, was collateral damage.

[Chief_Wiggum]

What states? Is it allowed in only that state? If im a resident of one of those states but dwell in another (Military relocation) how does it change things?

 

Check this website for concealed carry permit information:

 

www.packing.org

 

Some states offer reciprocity with others, some do not.

[Whitestar Pilot]

I can't believe this thread is turning into a gun debate.

 

For those of you who are afraid of guns and don't know, a .380 is a pretty weak gun--as someone has already mentioned by the sarcasm of "that out to be a misdemeanor."

 

The chances of shooting through a car door and killing someone with a .380 is pretty remote. Luckily, gangster wannabes and other low-budget criminals are typically armed with such cheap hardware.

 

Intelligent, law-abiding citizens who choose to have the option of defending themselves are usually better armed.

[jonnyg113]

Is it sick of me to dream of being in high speed chase in my LGT with gun fire all around me? haha.. but seriously, it would be cool.

[Aczwild]

The more law abiding citizens that bear arms the better the world will be.

 

See below article:

 

Israeli law requires that a person have a license in order to own any kind of firearm, but the license is readily available to any law-abiding adult who can show he or she has had firearms training. (Israel has universal military training for Jews of both sexes). And if you legally possess a gun, Israel allows--indeed encourages--carrying it. In effect, Israeli law nearly parallels that of Florida, Pennsylvania and 28 other U.S. states where licenses to carry a concealed firearm are available on application and passing a background check. (Vermonters have the right to carry without obtaining a license).

Nevertheless, though rapidly growing, gun ownership is low in Israel--because it is unnecessary. Israel is a socialist country, so the government is supposed to provide people all their basic needs, including guns for self defense. Israel loans out guns by the millions to its citizens.

Israelis going to a dangerous area routinely stop by a police station or communal armory to pick up an Uzi or a pistol. Israeli policy is that armed guardians should be near every place there are potential victims. Schools may not send children on field trips unless the children are accompanied by at least one teacher or parent carrying a gun.

At night, many neighborhoods are patrolled by "civil guards"--teenage volunteers carrying government-issued guns. If someone has disappeared (and possibly has been kidnaped), dozens, scores or even hundreds of civilian volunteer searchers are assembled and issued firearms to carry while searching for the missing person.

So widespread is this issuing of arms that it fundamentally affects Israeli firearms training. Since most pistols are not personally owned, Israelis are trained to keep them in "Condition 2" (cartridges in magazine, but not chambered). This is because the pistol a trainee may be issued at any particular future time could be any of the myriad of guns in Israeli arsenals: a Browning M-35 (Hi-Power); a Walther P-38; a Beretta Modello 1951 (Brigadeer); or even the French Modeles 1935A or 1950, or the Polish Pistolet wz/35 (Radom) or Czech CZ vz/27.

No matter how unfamiliar the recipient may be with a pistol issued him, one technique suits all: Condition 2 is a safe method of carry when there is no need for immediate use, and when all one need do is jack the slide to have the firearm ready for use.

Israel`s "guns everywhere" policy accounts for incidents such as the one in which three terrorists opened up with AK-47s on a Jerusalem crowd. The terrorists were able to kill only one victim before they were themselves shot down by handgun-carrying Israelis.

The surviving terrorist was bitter when he spoke to the press the next day. Their plan had been to quickly kill 20 or 30 people at a series of public places, always escaping before military or police could arrive. They hadn`t known Israeli civilians were armed. The terrorist felt that it just wasn`t "fair."

Incidentally, this occurred within three weeks of the massacre of 21 unarmed victims in a San Ysidro, California, McDonald`s fast-food restaurant.

Whatever their purpose, European anti-gun laws have miserably failed.

So Bu11dogg, when are you coming to VT?

[petmor]

Is it sick of me to dream of being in high speed chase in my LGT with gun fire all around me? haha.. but seriously, it would be cool.

It really says something of yourself doesn't it?