Infosecdad Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Ouch, that's not good, did the toothed idler pulley seize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrianroll Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 Lol…I know…still working on the crank pulley… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrianroll Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 Everything spins free. The tensioner is loose as it cannot tension on a belt… Well….pull the motor and check the valves or just try a belt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I can almost guarantee that you have bent valves if it broke while in motion, and with all the cranking that's happened. When my single cam's tensioner bracket failed it took all sixteen valves with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrianroll Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 Ouch. I was hoping for the best lol. It’s a beater but he has no money for a better car yet. guess I better get a cart together for new gaskets and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infosecdad Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 48 minutes ago, cbrianroll said: Soooo….why would a new belt break?!?!? I'm pulling the rest of the cover as we speak… When you did the head gaskets and new timing belt, did you replace the three timing pulleys (two smooth, one toothed) as well? Most belt breaks I've seen are when the bearings in the toothed pulley seize (I had one happen to my '99 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrianroll Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 Yep…all was new. Plus water pump and whatever else was recommended with it apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Ouch. Murphys law has struck again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 What brand timing belt kit did you use? The only thing I can think of that could cause it to break if all the timing components were new, is that a cam potentially seized. Are all four cams easily turned? Try to get the crank on its mark before attempting to turn the cams too much, just in case to keep additional damage to a minimum. But from my picture example above, damage has likely occurred. I even have dashcam footage of when mine broke! My buddy was taking it across the mountains to spokane, he was just driving normally on the freeway. There was a momentary loss of power and you can hear him go what the fuck, power comes back for a moment before there's nothing. He was pretty lucky it happened on 405 just before 167 or that could have been a realllly bad trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrianroll Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 It was the evergreen kit, which I thought got good reviews. Cams all turned normal, maybe something seized, but then broke also? Guess we’ll take it apart to see. Most sure it’s worth the money to fix that much damage…his car, his choice. Its nice when things break close to home lol. This happens miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Cams can snap. At this point it could be anything and you probably wont know without a tear down. Maybe look for a "good" used engine ($700-$900?) to just drop in and then you have yours as spare parts when you figure out what is salvageable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrianroll Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 I haven’t looked to hard yet. Most so far “run great, $3000.00, 280,000. Miles”…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 At that price I would call the recycler and take the $100 offered to tow the car away for scrap. Things are getting out of hand. Prices are ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrianroll Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 Lol, I know. That’s what I told him… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublechaz Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Depends on how much work you can or will do yourself. I wasn't excited about doing my first diff work on my favorite car, so I asked a local shop how much to take my already removed from vehicle diff and put new input and axle seals in the diff and just check the backlash. He quoted $3,000. I got the parts and did it in an hour for about $50 in parts. Of course putting it back in the car took a couple hours as well what with the cradle and all the bushings replaced with poly, but yes, prices are stupid lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrianroll Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 I got it with blown heads gaskets. Supposedly it over heated once, nothing seemed warped. I pulled the motor, checked for warpage with a machinists straight edge, prepped heads on 1/2 in glass and sandpaper, block was prepped similarly. Valves were good so did nothing to them. This time around I’m not sure about valves, I’ve never really messed with them besides in a few motorcycles with adjustable lifters. This is an ej2.5d so it has the other kind…can’t think of the name…I learn as I go, fairly competent lol, just more of a parts swapper than a troubleshooter. Son isn’t sure if he wants to spend the money to fix it or get a reliable car. I’m curious though so I may tear into it to kill that… I just did the rear ring and pinion in my jeep, needs to do the front now… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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