careercadaver Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) Getting ready to remove all the subframe spacers on my 2008 Outback LLBean H6. I have an LGT wagon parts car for the suspension bits. Both are Auto. I plan to run SpecB Bilstein Struts off a SpecB along with a few aluminum bits. I plan to use the OE LGT Wagon Springs. I assume I’ll be a bit lower in the front vs LGT stock height because of the weight of the H6. Im told I may want a bit more height in the rear as well. Thinking saggy butt spacers. Hopefully 3/8” is enough? I need some help with the rear camber adjustment. https://whitelineperformance.com/products/kta124-control-arm?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqPGUBhDwARIsANNwjV4OlITGdfzUDl40X1n0BVgRD-R137urHegyoJh0_Ye2lbtbjdvEHVIaAqJNEALw_wcB I’ve looked at the Whiteline adjustable arms (KTA124) but Im hoping I can run the upper trailing arm bushing (KCA399) instead as I plan to leave the car at LGT wagon stock height. https://subimods.com/products/whiteline-rear-camber-adjustment-bushings-2005-2009-lgt-kca399?variant=41168954065071¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqPGUBhDwARIsANNwjV7YM0m-bC3QNyzp1KIjon1RCWWaS2WMVwMJUhPXpqODHcIRc1IxKJcaAs9hEALw_wcB Any input would be appreciated. Edited June 13, 2022 by careercadaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Febreze Mee Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 What camber values were you hoping to achieve once all finished? Also, a little confused when you say "...I plan to leave the car at stock height." How will you be leaving at stock height? This suspension swap alone drops the car a couple inches, playing with the geometry big time, though it seems like you've read a bit on it, so you would know. I swapped OEM LGT struts and springs, and upper control arms onto my H6, however I didn't remove the subframe spacers. From what I remember, the camber could've been corrected to w/in spec using only the KCA399 kit as it's good for +/- 1.25°. I'm on OB-specific coilovers in a 2.5i now, using both the KTA124 and KCA399 kit in LGT UCAs, again I have not removed the subframe spacers. I appreciate the adjustment range these two kits provide on harmony, and highly recommended getting both if you can. I've never removed my subframe spacers, and I wish I had hard numbers to provide to you for my H6 car, just inputting where I can. Hoping this helps some. MILKRUN - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
careercadaver Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) What camber values were you hoping to achieve once all finished? Also, a little confused when you say "...I plan to leave the car at stock height." How will you be leaving at stock height? This suspension swap alone drops the car a couple inches, playing with the geometry big time, though it seems like you've read a bit on it, so you would know. I swapped OEM LGT struts and springs, and upper control arms onto my H6, however I didn't remove the subframe spacers. From what I remember, the camber could've been corrected to w/in spec using only the KCA399 kit as it's good for +/- 1.25°. I'm on OB-specific coilovers in a 2.5i now, using both the KTA124 and KCA399 kit in LGT UCAs, again I have not removed the subframe spacers. I appreciate the adjustment range these two kits provide on harmony, and highly recommended getting both if you can. I've never removed my subframe spacers, and I wish I had hard numbers to provide to you for my H6 car, just inputting where I can. Hoping this helps some. *edited original post. Planning to stay at LGT wagon stock height which I’m told will be about a 2” drop after I remove the spacers. In relation to camber…possibly a little negative camber. Nothing crazy. -2° at most. Not looking for a track car but I’d love for it to handle. My question is can I get by spending $60 on an adjustable bushing vs the $400 arms if I plan to stay at LGT wagon stock height. As I understand it there is no rear camber adjustment from the factory. Will adding a minimal spacer for saggy butt spacers push me toward the more expensive route? Edited June 13, 2022 by careercadaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronemus Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I use Moog adjustable arms on my Gen 5 Outback (bought from Rock Auto); much less expensive, but not available for all models/years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
careercadaver Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 I use Moog adjustable arms on my Gen 5 Outback (bought from Rock Auto); much less expensive, but not available for all models/years. I know both Whiteline and Megan make sets. I’ve seen the WL stuff straight up rot with all the salt we use locally. I’m not certain of Megan on a quality level. Megan and Moog would be sufficient for my application. DD, no track use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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