I Donated thefultonhow Posted September 15, 2017 I Donated Share Posted September 15, 2017 Make it like this: Put 2.4DIT, 6 speed, HID/LED headlights, multilink rear suspension - pretty much what's available on other Subarus already. Call for deposit check. Problem solved. I mean, I'd totally date J-Law while we're at it. Not sure she'd date me, though. Also not sure Subaru would take your deposit on that car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubOperator Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Also not sure Subaru would take your deposit on that car. Somehow I think you're right. But hey, I did my part! 2005 LGT Wagon Limited 6 MT RBP Stage 2 - 248K 2007 B9 Tribeca Limited DGM - 258K SOLD - 2005 OB Limited 5 MT Silver - 245K SOLD - 2010 OB 6 MT Silver - 205K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I ended up in an Outback because I realized that the ground clearance of the Legacy wagon wasn't good enough. The dreaded sound of scratching the bumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 I mean, I'd totally date J-Law while we're at it. Not sure she'd date me, though. Also not sure Subaru would take your deposit on that car. Psssshhh, everyone knows she's easy. Just post you want to date her in an online forum, demand she respond, and I'm sure the message will get through to the appropriate people. Hell, start a Group Date thread and then she'll see all the excitement from 30 dudes out of 30 Million and definitely do it. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWebb Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 never date a Jew. from Nico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted September 15, 2017 I Donated Share Posted September 15, 2017 she'll see all the excitement from 30 dudes out of 30 Million and definitely do it. [emoji38] "I'm here for the gangbang" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 So is SOA but not in the way you were hoping for. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derrick0580 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Midsize sedan sales in the US as a whole are dwindling. With companies making suv with the same fuel economy as these original sedans more and more are going that route. Most people buying new cars are family orientated and not 20 something kids wanting to go fast. Rumor has it that gm may even pull the plug on the impala once again as more and more people opt for the small cars such as the malibu or the impreza or moving up to an outback or equinox/tahoe. Everytime our vp puts out a plant message we hear how legacy sales keep going down and down yet the outback and impreza keep sky rocketing beyond expectations. I wouldn't be surprised if by 2020 the legacy ceases to exist if the market doesn't get any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda_One Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 If that the case I will be back in an Audi. Laughing at Oneself and with Others is Good for the Soul [emoji847] Laughing at Oneself and with Other is good for the Soul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 The general problem is that almost all cars increases in weight due to safety requirements. So even small cars have almost the same weight as large cars and therefore the actual fuel consumption figures aren't that much different. For a manufacturer the profit is better on a larger car than on a small because they can take out a higher price for a larger car in general. And you can fit more accessories into a larger car as well and that sells as well. The challenge for car manufacturers is to keep up with conflicting demands - legal demands for safety properties contradicts fuel economy that also is a legal demand. Consumers demands a comfortable cabin, which requires air conditioning and heating, both consumes fuel. And politicians try their best to slow down traffic to a pace that makes using a car about as fast as using public transportation - which actually increases the emissions. In some places it's faster and more reliable to use a bicycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovcoursitsilver Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 ... I wouldn't be surprised if by 2020 the legacy ceases to exist if the market doesn't get any better. I joined this forum in 2005 when I purchased my first Subaru, a 2005 Legacy GT. At 57 years-old, I'd had a few interesting cars and, during the kids years, a few really dull cars. The '05 LGT offered me the power and acceleration of my '73 Z-28 with four doors, AWD and the fuel consumption of my Accord. But I, like many of you on this forum, are not the typical automotive consumer. I like interesting cars and fast cars, if possible. Nobody knew it but me and a few other Subaru fans, but the '05 was a SPECIAL car. Twelve years later, the market has changed and so have most Subaru owners. The Legacy now accounts for less than 10% of Subaru's sales. Even the Impreza/WRX/STI group is down to a little more than 13% of sales. Forester and Outback are about 27% each. Throw in the Crosstrek and Subaru's "SUV/crossover" lines make up almost 67% of the company's sales. Subaru's remarkable sales growth in recent years is more from the high-riding models than from the performance models. It may be premature, I hope, to talk about the demise of the Legacy. But expecting Subaru to make another STI for grownups may be wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 The use of the high-riding models is a necessity in the cities of today with all the speed bumps and bad roads introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Onegin Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 never date a Jew. You been watching too many Brother Nathaniel videos. from Nico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilot1226 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 So I’ve read through the thread. What makes this 2020 one so special? Has it even been confirmed yet? Is there a reason I should wait and pass on the 2019 3.6, since I’m thinking that the EZ36D is going to be retired at the refresh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Don't worry, you'll still be able to get your Subaru CRV with it's 1.3L 4cyl in 2020. Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilot1226 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Wha? O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedeck Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I joined this forum in 2005 when I purchased my first Subaru, a 2005 Legacy GT. At 57 years-old, I'd had a few interesting cars and, during the kids years, a few really dull cars. The '05 LGT offered me the power and acceleration of my '73 Z-28 with four doors, AWD and the fuel consumption of my Accord. It may be premature, I hope, to talk about the demise of the Legacy. But expecting Subaru to make another STI for grownups may be wishful thinking. +2 on the '05 LGT. I had an '05 and '08, loved them both. I wish Subaru would bring over a B4 to the States, tuned by STi, with some serious wish list items, and make a run of 500 - 1000, like the previous Spec B's. Manual transmission, H6 dual turbo, brembos, bilsteins, recaro's, put some real tires on them (other than bulk crap), no sun roof, and charge 40-45k. I'd buy one, even as a pre-order. Alas, your second statement in the quote makes me sad in that they never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Don't worry, you'll still be able to get your Subaru CRV with it's 1.3L 3cyl in 2020. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Subaru. Neutered people movers. It's what makes a Subaru a Subaru. Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 +2 on the '05 LGT. I had an '05 and '08, loved them both. I wish Subaru would bring over a B4 to the States, tuned by STi, with some serious wish list items, and make a run of 500 - 1000, like the previous Spec B's. Manual transmission, H6 dual turbo, brembos, bilsteins, recaro's, put some real tires on them (other than bulk crap), no sun roof, and charge 40-45k. I'd buy one, even as a pre-order. Alas, your second statement in the quote makes me sad in that they never will. Why would they voluntarily lose a shit-ton of money on these just to make you happy? If you want that, be ready to pony up more like $60k, cheap-ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedeck Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Why would they voluntarily lose a shit-ton of money on these just to make you happy? If you want that, be ready to pony up more like $60k, cheap-ass. Cause they love me? Hahaha. I'd be willing to pay the right price, were they to offer something like it. Of course, I would want it bult in Japan. Quality control in the SIA plant sucks...sad to day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 So I’ve read through the thread. What makes this 2020 one so special? Has it even been confirmed yet? Is there a reason I should wait and pass on the 2019 3.6, since I’m thinking that the EZ36D is going to be retired at the refresh? They re-launch new model generations every 5 years. Worst case, you wait for 2020 to come out and get a leftover 2019 at a deal price. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 They re-launch new model generations every 5 years. Worst case, you wait for 2020 to come out and get a leftover 2019 at a deal price. The only problem with that logic, is the 3.6R inventory might be gone when the 2020 hit the lot. 3.6R are not that common in dealer inventory as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 But what are you REALLY missing out on if you don't get the 3.6R? Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatsuDano Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 You REALLY don't want the 3.6R. That engine is a dinosaur. Wait until 2020. The idea with the global platform is that they will introduce a lot of new power options. What they are, we don't know exactly. Could be hybrid, all electric, turbo, hamster, flintstone, etc. Not a whole lot of official word other than "there is going to be a global platform across all models!" The new high-HP power plant will be in the Ascent. It's probably a good guess that it won't be the same as the WRX, as ~270HP won't be enough for a car of that size. So it's a matter of "will the Ascent engine be available in other models?" My guess would be yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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