SBT Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Each successive generation "Impreza" platform, which includes the WRX, CrossTrek, STI and Forester, is built on the previous-generation Legacy platform. So Impreza platform size and interior are all going "up" as the Legacy platform advances. That's why the 09 Forester was such a large step-up in size. But, BOT - Were SOA to reintroduce a Legacy GT, even with the 3.6 H6 (unlikely) or the 2.0T H4 (somewhat likely), it would probably be a short-run, and only with HD-CVT. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laufu Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Each successive generation "Impreza" platform, which includes the WRX, CrossTrek, STI and Forester, is built on the previous-generation Legacy platform. So Impreza platform size and interior are all going "up" as the Legacy platform advances. That's why the 09 Forester was such a large step-up in size. But, BOT - Were SOA to reintroduce a Legacy GT, even with the 3.6 H6 (unlikely) or the 2.0T H4 (somewhat likely), it would probably be a short-run, and only with HD-CVT. That was then, the new Impreza is the first Subaru to use the new Subaru Global Platform. All future Subarus will also be built from this platform. And as you mentioned the new Impreza has grown in size, it also has gained more refinement. If these traits carry over to the next WRX, it would make a new Legacy GT almost redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Each successive generation "Impreza" platform, which includes the WRX, CrossTrek, STI and Forester, is built on the previous-generation Legacy platform. So Impreza platform size and interior are all going "up" as the Legacy platform advances. That's why the 09 Forester was such a large step-up in size. But, BOT - Were SOA to reintroduce a Legacy GT, even with the 3.6 H6 (unlikely) or the 2.0T H4 (somewhat likely), it would probably be a short-run, and only with HD-CVT. That is not why the 09 Forester was bigger. The 09 Forester was bigger because Subaru realized all of its vehicles were too small for the American market. It was built on the 08 Impreza platform which was derived from the then current Legacy platform with some architecture from the more advanced Tribeca version. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Thanks for the comment on Subaru's new Global platform. Knew it was taking over...2017 Impreza and subsequent Impreza-derived models are being/will be built off of this platform, as will be the 7th Gen Legacy. 2017 retooling for the GP Impreza cost $1B - let's hope it's worth it. Believe several of the Tribeca advancements were incorporated into the 5th Gen Legacy/4th Gen OB platforms. Not sure what other "components" made it into the down-model versions before the new Global platform. New 3-row CUV replacement for Tribeca will also be built off the GP. Hope there's some room in there for a Legacy performance version. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laufu Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I also want a performance Legacy but will settle for a tS 3.6R model. 3.6R Sport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 That is not why the 09 Forester was bigger. The 09 Forester was bigger because Subaru realized all of its vehicles were too small for the American market. It was built on the 08 Impreza platform which was derived from the then current Legacy platform with some architecture from the more advanced Tribeca version. Awwwww... now it truly is 2006 again! We're BACK!!! I also want a performance Legacy but will settle for a tS 3.6R model. 3.6R Sport? Maybe...... a LegacySTI????? Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I also want a performance Legacy but will settle for a tS 3.6R model. 3.6R Sport? You mean raptor n tuned...300+ hp right there Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_m Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I gave up dreaming about this a long time ago. I went from my 2005 LGT LTD auto to my 2015 3.6r, skipping the fugly 5th gen Legacy because it was ugly and no auto, and knowing I was a little to old for a WRX. The thought of a tuned STI 3.6r with a suspension package, wraparound ground effects, trunk lip spoiler and tuned exhaust would be a fun ride. And yes, it needs to be pushing more than 256hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I gave up dreaming about this a long time ago. I went from my 2005 LGT LTD auto to my 2015 3.6r, skipping the fugly 5th gen Legacy because it was ugly and no auto, and knowing I was a little to old for a WRX. The thought of a tuned STI 3.6r with a suspension package, wraparound ground effects, trunk lip spoiler and tuned exhaust would be a fun ride. And yes, it needs to be pushing more than 256hp. Go see the gen 6 tuning thread, you can do all of that, it'll just be a custom STi3.6 Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DadSled Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 An awd turbo wagon with 6mt that carries 5 adults and their gear for a weekend? why would you buy that instead of an suv? Subaru already has a toy car (sti). The legacy has been changed to an awd camry and sells better than ever. The lgt sold 227 cars its last year. Pretty much the kiss of death when you are deciding whether to build another performance oriented legacy. In the legacy world, the 4th gens were the cool kids. The cars still had an identity different than Toyota and performance features. No one walks into a Subaru dealer looking for a performance oriented legacy. you would buy an impeza or sti. At least in the usa. The levorg was supposed to be the next "wagon". Subaru got deposits from usa customers to buy them. No cars ever showed up. Kiss of death for the lgt has already happened.... Deposits??!!?? Did Subaru like, accept them? Or people just calling and saying take my money, please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Deposits??!!?? Did Subaru like, accept them? Or people just calling and saying take my money, please Probably the latter, given how GBs tend to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 As someone who has owned a LGT and now a 3.6r, I only have one thing to say. The turbo LGT was FUN in either auto or stick; the 3.6 is a highway cruiser. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 As someone who has owned a LGT and now a 3.6r, I only have one thing to say. The turbo LGT was FUN in either auto or stick; the 3.6 is a highway cruiser. End of story. You and me sir have 2 very different 3.6Rs lol Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 They need to give us the 3.6R Spec.B with a 6-speed. That would make me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spb Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Whatever they have to do, I want a legacy that can do 0-60 in the fives and 1/4mi in the fourteens. Let it be a 3.6R, 2.5T, 2.0T, AT/CVT/6MT, you name it. This is just embarrassing: "With the sprint to 60 mph taking 7.1 seconds and the quarter-mile passing in 15.5 at 94 mph, the new car is 0.7- and 0.5-second slower than our 2010 [Legacy]. Even the Mazda 6—184-hp inline-four, six-speed automatic, 3294 pounds—bests the Subaru to 60 and loses by just a tenth in the quarter." And then Accord with A/T blows it out of water with 5.6s 0-60 and 14.1s for 1/4mi caranddriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Its not going to be in 2018 or likely in the 6th Generation Legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Whatever they have to do, I want a legacy that can do 0-60 in the fives and 1/4mi in the fourteens. Let it be a 3.6R, 2.5T, 2.0T, AT/CVT/6MT, you name it. This is just embarrassing: "With the sprint to 60 mph taking 7.1 seconds and the quarter-mile passing in 15.5 at 94 mph, the new car is 0.7- and 0.5-second slower than our 2010 [Legacy]. Even the Mazda 6—184-hp inline-four, six-speed automatic, 3294 pounds—bests the Subaru to 60 and loses by just a tenth in the quarter." And then Accord with A/T blows it out of water with 5.6s 0-60 and 14.1s for 1/4mi caranddriver So you want V6 Camry performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I'd own an H6 Legacy if it put up stock V6 Honda Accord numbers, considering those are better than any stock Legacy GT. Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spb Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Exactly my point^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 You guys are comparing performance of 10+ year old cars (which are still marginally quicker) to current cars. If I was going to look at a new LGT, it would need to be on par with the 2016 Fusion Sport power wise. I don't want to be as quick as a Camry or Accord, I want to be much quicker than either, and it needs to be that way from the factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrD123 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 The H6 should be able to put down decent numbers for 0-60 and the quarter - I am guessing that has to do with the transmission more than anything else, and you would think that could be adjusted if a tuner wanted to optimize for going faster vs. fuel economy... (fuel economy went up a fair bit for the 15+ over the 14, and it went up a bit in weight) comparing a fairly heavily modified H6 to a stock whatever seems silly. Almost as bad as wondering why a higher horsepower, lighter, FWD vehicle is faster on dry pavement. For a new LegacyGT, I'd want a complete package - I'd want to see the same engine as in the WRX or, when they update it, the STi (so that there's an aftermarket), performance oriented suspension, big brakes, and a 6MT (SI drive would be nice, too - or something that lets you switch from a more economy oriented mode to a more performance oriented mode). Inside, an upgraded steering wheel (or just a carry over from the STi) and seats with better bolstering. I don't care if it's the fastest thing out there - I just want it to be fun to drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 The accord weighs 100lbs less than the the loaded Legacy The motor is a dog. 3.6 liters and only makes 256/247 Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 The accord weighs 100lbs less than the the loaded Legacy [emoji38] The motor is a dog. 3.6 liters and only makes 256/247 [emoji38] Subaru choked the motor and put in a transmission that sucks 30% (5EAT n CVT is worse)..that's going to be awful every time Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Subaru choked the motor and put in a transmission that sucks 30% (5EAT n CVT is worse)..that's going to be awful every time Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk Not sure how to interpret that in any other way than both sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 2Fiver Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Not sure how to interpret that in any other way than both sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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