GTEASER Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/26/subaru-recalls-4-models-turbo-air-pump-can-catch-fire.html Recall is not initiated yet but coming soon. Affected vehicles... 2007-2009 Legacy GT and Outback XT 2008-2014 WRX/STi 2009-2013 Forester XT GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Gator Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 WASHINGTON -- Subaru of America will recall about 100,000 vehicles equipped with turbocharged engines over increased risk of a fire. A faulty relay controlling the secondary air injection pump in the turbocharged vehicles could fail and cause the unit to overheat and melt, potentially leading to a fire, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s website. Subaru has received at least two reports of fires related to the issue, according to a filing with NHTSA. The recall covers 100,127 units of the Legacy midsize sedan and Outback crossover from model years 2007-2009, as well as the 2009-2013 Forester crossover and 2008-2014 Impreza compact. Only models with turbocharged engines are affected. Dealers will replace the secondary air injection pump relay on the affected vehicles. Subaru hasn’t said when it will begin to notify owners. Nothing like a race track to find the weak points in man and machine. "Good Judgement comes from Experience. Experience comes from Bad Judgement" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschuk Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I would like to see them replace the air injection valves that get clogged and stop working. One of mine started to fail around 42k. I ended up turning the CEL off. P2441 and P2444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07wrxstage2 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Just saw this in the paper this morning. Was just going to post it but I knew someone here would be on top of it. Thankfully I have an 05 and only need to worry about the airbag recall which I still haven't done yet. Alex D. JDM Prestige Motors alex@jdmprestigemotors.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Oh well, I'll be waiting for the letter for my Spec B. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I wonder if they will reimburse owners that paid to replace that system due to failure caused by the bad relay? I guess that relay is for the pump itself not the solenoids, or at least that is how i understood it. Either way I took care of that two years ago by disabling the P2441/2/3/4 codes, pulling the relays and unplugging the pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I would like to see them replace the air injection valves that get clogged and stop working. One of mine started to fail around 42k. I ended up turning the CEL off. P2441 and P2444 Makes me wonder if the clogged nozzles are the real problem - more backpressure for the pump leads to higher current that burns the relay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 I would like to see them replace the air injection valves that get clogged and stop working. One of mine started to fail around 42k. I ended up turning the CEL off. P2441 and P2444 Make sure you do that after you confirm they are open! if you disable the DTC prior and dont unplug the pump thats bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impatient Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Just got my notice. Question: where on engine is this, and are any fluids involved? I'd hate to change oil (with high dollar synthetic...good stuff, though not 5-30) only to have them drain & refill a couple hundred miles later with who knows what oil. That dealer was using Mobil "semi-syn" last time I checked (or whatever Mobil Super 7000 is or was). 2007 Outback XT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Just got my notice. Question: where on engine is this, and are any fluids involved? I'd hate to change oil (with high dollar synthetic...good stuff, though not 5-30) only to have them drain & refill a couple hundred miles later with who knows what oil. That dealer was using Mobil "semi-syn" last time I checked (or whatever Mobil Super 7000 is or was). 2007 Outback XT Its an issue with the relay so they only replace the relay in the under hood fuse box. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impatient Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Thanks gt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Gator Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 If you've deleted the air pump is there any reason to have the relay replaced? Is the relay still energized and subject to failure? Nothing like a race track to find the weak points in man and machine. "Good Judgement comes from Experience. Experience comes from Bad Judgement" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 It may still be energized but probably won't fail. But if you bring the car in for the recall they will most likely also discover the deleted air pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I've seen lots of pumps fail after the solenoid valves stuck open, allowing exhaust gas to flow up to the pump itself. On startup there's so much water vapor in the exhaust gas it quickly condenses in the pump and that in turns gets rusty and seizes up. I've seen a few cars have the pump short out, probably from condensation, and that took out the relay in question. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Gator Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 It may still be energized but probably won't fail. But if you bring the car in for the recall they will most likely also discover the deleted air pump. It never occurred to me to check if the relay was deleted at the same time as the pump delete, but if it's still there I'll be deleting it now. Nothing like a race track to find the weak points in man and machine. "Good Judgement comes from Experience. Experience comes from Bad Judgement" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Has anyone received a recall notice yet ? I don't recall getting one, but I did buy my Spec B used in 2011. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaggie Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I received a call from the Subaru dealership here in Ottawa, Ont, Canada 2 weeks ago. I've got a 2009 Spec B in white. Have booked an appointment for April 2017, for the Spec B is now stored for the winter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SpecB_DE Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I just received my recall notice. I'm still waiting on the call that my dashboard has shown up. I was told October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Got my notification. I'm storing it in the same box with the pump, solenoids, air ducts and associated junk. Clearly they're having a much easier time sourcing replacement relays than they are with the air bags. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Probably because Takata is on the brink of bankruptcy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Got my notice. The dealer also received my replacement dash so it looks like I'll be getting this done at the same time. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Got the notice for the Spec B yesterday. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dga Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Was at the dealer picking up some parts and went to check out what a new to me '09 spec B needed in terms of recalls and this was the only one. Air pump relay that stays open. I got a WTF look after I said no bother, that part is already gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JF1GG29 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just got the notice for my 07 Spec.B. Frankly, I'm a bit tired of recalls. Fourth time in the last year: brake lines, airbag, dash, now this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SpecB_DE Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Just got the notice for my 07 Spec.B. Frankly, I'm a bit tired of recalls. Fourth time in the last year: brake lines, airbag, dash, now this. Never get tired of recalls. I received the brake line recall a couple years ago so only the airbag and relay. The dash is voluntary but they decided it's an issue even though it's not a safety item. I think they are doing the dash mainly due to the airbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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