4S-TURBO Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 And the Outback XT was also dropped. It looks like you chose the 3.0R over the 2.5XT. Any reason why? And as you already know, the BL/BP overlap between the other models and between the Legacy and Outback was ridiculous. For $30k you could get into a loaded turbo model, any model. And they were all basically the same size inside. I don't think the same would be true in this instance. Mainly because a Legacy GT wagon wouldn't be a crashy suspended tiny tire competitor with the softer more compliant Outback XT sitting right next to it for virtually the same price with the same drivetrain. That dynamic doesn't exist anymore. Sure, people would buy a Legacy GT wagon over a 3.6R Outback. As rightly they should! It's a FAR SUPERIOR product just in the AWD system alone. Add the low and mid torque resulting in quicker acceleration and better real world mileage. But they wouldn't be getting a crappy ride relatively as they did before and maintain the utilitarian function of a wagon. And it's not 2007. Subaru/SOA is not the same company. When Subaru was desperate to save money because the 2009 Forester hadn't dropped yet, they started chopping models and trims. Not disagreeing with their decisions, just sayin. The car in my profile is a 3.0 VDC. It was lowered. I'm not against the Outback, I'm against having to lower the damn things because I don't need and extra 4 inches of clearance. Had two Forester XT's I also lowered. Serves me zero purpose. My BM Legacy was as high as that Outback on stock suspension! Who needs to be higher? Given a choice between the two, in their current form, with different drivetrains and different packaging, I think they differentiate themselves enough to serve the consumer who have different tastes and uses for a 5 door wagon. Throw a turbo in it, and those differences become obvious. In 2007, not so obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 we're saying that, given that there is no USDM legacy wagon at all There is no Legacy Wagon in any market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4S-TURBO Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Levorg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Levorg. Levorg is built off an Impreza platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4S-TURBO Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Impreza is built off the Legacy platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4S-TURBO Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 The Subaru Levorg is a mid-size car manufactured since 2014 by Fuji Heavy Industries and sold under the Subaru brand. According to Subaru, the name Levorg is a combination of three words, LEgacy, reVOlution, touRinG[1] The Levorg shares its platform with the Impreza, and the Legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4S-TURBO Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Watt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4S-TURBO Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I'm just going to go ahead and agree with you because happy hour. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I won't. He's wrong. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4S-TURBO Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 For Subaru's purposes, and according to by previous post on what Subaru says themselves, yes! It's also a WRX S4 5 door hatch AND Impreza wagon. It's a frankencar serving triple duty. The WRX S4 sedan we are not talking about also replaced the Legacy B4 DIT. Subaru changed things up to differentiate sport models and utility models for other markets. "Revolution." USDM is on its own trajectory which your arguments stem from. Clearly. I'll take a Levorg OR a supersized 6th gen Legacy GT wagon. Today. I wouldn't necessarily take an Outback XT though. BAH, ok, you got me. I thought about it. I would. Just no on the roof rails and keep it monotone and lower and inch or two. I didn't see Outback as an option in the RT piece, tho. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 The Levorg is an Impreza. It's not a Legacy. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I did have a 5th gen Legacy wagon, but changed to an Outback because the ground clearance did suck on the Legacy wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4S-TURBO Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 <---how's that for ground clearance on an Outback?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinkly Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I love my 8+ inch ground clearance in my xt. Would buy a new xt if available. Not everyone wants to drop their cars to the ground. * Build Thread * 26.53 MPG - 12 month Average * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4S-TURBO Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I have the same complaint. Which is I don't want to lower my new car, either. Because this is the only new car alternative from Subaru to the car I drive: http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/forester/special-features.html At least you have a decent alternative. shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I love my 8+ inch ground clearance in my xt. Would buy a new xt if available. Not everyone wants to drop their cars to the ground. I am actually thinking of installing a 1-2 inch lift kit on our 05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covertrussian Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I love my 8+ inch ground clearance in my xt. Would buy a new xt if available. Not everyone wants to drop their cars to the ground. This, precisely why I got the newer Outback, need ground clearance for off roading and snow, lets not forget the space for the kids. The other day I was telling the wife how I would love to have a turbo 2010+ Outback, would actually sell the the 4th gen LGT for one... 05 LGT 16G 14psi 290whp/30mpg (SOLD) 12 OBP Stock 130whp/27mpg@87 Oct 00 G20t GT28r 10psi 250whp/36mpg 22 Ascent STOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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