gmartinez1900 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I found a 05 Outback 3.0R but cannot find information on it? Are these rare ? Got 103K for $9000.... would like some advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeuEmMaiMai Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 245HP 219TQ mated to a E5AT pretty fast for what it is. price is OK will need timing belt service asap as the belt is 10 years old and near it's service point. Great in snow Comfortable OK on gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 3.0 has timing chain not a belt, no service required in that respect. They aren't really rare unless you are talking about an outback sedan, which is a little rare. But not really anything to get excited about imo. Price seems a little high but the condition would really determine that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmartinez1900 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 It is a sedan outback 3.0R.... by rare I meant I cant find any information about them...just looking for information about the service history to check and what to expect owning the car for a few years. Also looking at a few Legacy's, foresters and imprezas around the Detroit Michigan area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Maintenance is no different from any other h6 subaru. What specifically are you concerned about. Basic stuff to look for smooth shifting and pull during acceleration. There will be some slight timing chain noise on cold starts that goes away when warmed up. Cv boots are the biggest concern because of the proximity to the catalytic converters. Otherwise it should be a good buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmartinez1900 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 I am trying to figure out what the average life of this 3.0R H6 is, does this also have the Legacy GT problem with banjo filters and cat in up pipe? I am trying to find a Subaru I can drive for the next 4-5 years as a dailey city traffic car that will occasionally make long road trips....thinking about a Forester or this 3.0R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmartinez1900 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 I know about the 2.5 Turbo just wondering how the 3.0 compares....and why not many 3.0R's were made...make me think it was a failed project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 The 3.0 is probably the most reliable engine subaru made. There are plenty out there mostly in the outback wagon though. The outback sedan didn't sell in big numbers and the legacy wasn't a big seller with the 3.0 most of them are 2.5i models. The engine is smooth and powerful and should last a long long time. There is no turbo so no up pipe or banjo bolts. It is not great on gas so be prepared for that and does require premium fuel. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 The 3.0 was available from early 2000s until 2008 or 2009. Then came the 3.6r which can run regular gas with a little power bump about the same gas mileage. It is far from a failed project. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispatch20 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I know about the 2.5 Turbo just wondering how the 3.0 compares....and why not many 3.0R's were made...make me think it was a failed project I suspect the 3.0R didn't hit huge sales numbers because performance enthusiasts wanted the turbo, and regular people wanted the fuel economy and low price of the 2.5i. However, the 3.0R is a fantastic engine that's proven its durability and low maintanence. I've owned a couple 2.5i, a 3.0R, and a LGT (2.5 turbo), and the 3.0R is my favorite for daily driving. The 3.0R has a lot less overall torque than a turbo, but it really shines in how quiet and smooth it is. But if you like tuning a car and getting more HP out of an engine, then the LGT is hard to beat. A 3.0R Outback Sedan is a pretty cool car. At $9k for a 103k mile car, I think you'd be paying top dollar. In NY, that car would likely sell for $7.0-$8.3k on the private market depending on condition. I used to hate the look of the jacked up suspension on the Outback Sedan, but I kind of like it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 But there is also a raptor supercharger kit and headers available for the 3.0 and 3.6 models. So if you do want to make more power you can, and for the right price it will make a lot of power. 5eat also has some power holding mods available for a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmartinez1900 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Awesome appreciate all of the help guys... Ill see how far I can talk them down for it, but KBB has it going for 10K...will find other negotiation tactics. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispatch20 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Awesome appreciate all of the help guys... Ill see how far I can talk them down for it, but KBB has it going for 10K...will find other negotiation tactics. Thanks again! Try the other appraisal sites to get a better balance. I just did edmunds.com used car appraisal, and it has dealer retail at $7.8k and private party at $6.3k. NADA.com puts clean retail at $9k. Used car dealers never use KBB. It's always all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmartinez1900 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 I just did it on emunds and got those numbers too. Hopefully I can get em down to 7 or close to....has been on the market a month....makes me nervous. But will get maintenance history to make sure she isn't a Lemon.... Any know where to find cold air intake for a 3.0R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmartinez1900 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Nevermind I read that the stock cold air was very well built and all a aftermarket intake would do is make some noise....however I would like to get a CBE or at least a difference exhaust profile on it if anyone has ideas ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispatch20 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 There are a lot of "axle back" exhaust options you can use (e.g. from the flange after the Y in the exhaust to the muffler; near the rear axles and back). The 3.0R will fit the same muffler cans as the LGT. I believe Perrin and Prodrive are mufflers are pretty popular for axle back exhaust, although rare. Most LGT people that want some more noise typically swap their entire cat-back exhaust to aftermarket, which you won't be able to do. I don't recall seeing any cat-back (which includes mid-pipe section with resonators) for the 3.0R, but I could be wrong. As previously mentioned, you can get Raptor headers (from Australia) for $$$. I would think you could also have an exhaust shop make a custom exhaust from the headers back for $800-$1200 give or take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmartinez1900 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Id love to be able to get the Perrin exhaust sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98legwag Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I have Turbo XS mufflers on my 3.0R. They bolted up to the stock y-pipe. As far as the cat-backs go, apparently the difference is the flange that bolts to the cats. From a GT to 3.0R it needs to be cut off and rotated. I was told this by someone on here who is also on SLI. He has a blue 3.0R down in NZ. Here is a short video of my exhaust after a cold start. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Jsvfk6Vt8]2009 Legacy 3.0R with Turbo XS mufflers - YouTube[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmartinez1900 Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 Is your car stock with the Turbo XS mufflers? Sounds good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98legwag Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Is your car stock with the Turbo XS mufflers? Sounds good Yeah. It also has an AEM Dryflow panel filter. I do have upgraded sway bars as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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