DylanGC Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Hello, I have a 2007 JDM GT Spec B, a six speed manual. I would like to have a little more power and I was wondering what my options are? I have been told that a tuning session on a dyno could achieve around 310 to 330bhp without any mods. Is this correct? The car has a VF45 turbo and is of course a twinscroll. Thanks Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Mac Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Are you saying 310hp at the flywheel? Assuming 25% drivetrain loss would give you around 230wheel hp which is a tad ambitious sadly. Had mine e-tuned by Cryotune and got around 205wheel hp at a safe boost level for stock. Same specc'd car as yours btw. Really depends if you value safety. Could probably get 230 with 17-18 psi but without supporting mods it wouldn't be advisable. Have you ever looked at the downpipes for these cars, absolutely crap design, would at the very least get an aftermarket downpipe if you want real performance gains. Whereabouts in the world are you anyway, wouldn't imagine you are US based like most on here? 2000 Legacy B4 RSK - SOLD 2006 Legacy BP5 GT Spec B wagon - Garage Thread 2011 VW T5 van 2.0L of turbo diesel awesomeness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylanGC Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Are you saying 310hp at the flywheel? Assuming 25% drivetrain loss would give you around 230wheel hp which is a tad ambitious sadly. Had mine e-tuned by Cryotune and got around 205wheel hp at a safe boost level for stock. Same specc'd car as yours btw. Really depends if you value safety. Could probably get 230 with 17-18 psi but without supporting mods it wouldn't be advisable. Have you ever looked at the downpipes for these cars, absolutely crap design, would at the very least get an aftermarket downpipe if you want real performance gains. Whereabouts in the world are you anyway, wouldn't imagine you are US based like most on here? Hi, Thanks for your reply. I am in the UK. I would like a reliable performance gain and do not have any problems with having aftermarket parts on the car. I am getting conflicting information from various sources about power gains for this car. Some say it will easily make around 320bhp, at the flywheel, with a good tune. Others say it needs supporting mods. I am not so sure what supporting mods are required to achieve a reliable 330bhp at the flywheel. Can you give me an idea of what parts I would need to fit to start seeing some good figures? Thanks Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Mac Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I'm actually in the process of pricing up parts to go for a stage 2 cryotune. I'll be getting an aftermarket downpipe, both intake pipes (after maf, under manifold one) a 3 port boost control solenoid and a better bpv. Not all those are necessary, could probably get it done with just the downpipe but i'm just trying to future proof things. Our downpipes pretty much look like this so any fine tuning at high boost levels will surely be alot harder than with one that gives the wastegate gases a clear path to take. Throwing more and more boost at a system that is very obviously bottlenecked by this exhaust isn't the smartest way to do it. http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o594/andy_mac1/DFDD6465-40EB-4832-A255-E013BA60CE49_zpsur0va43q.jpg Bit of a rough job i know but you could always decat the downpipe and get someone to alter the opening and widen it to open up the wastegate area. Though, without being tested by a fluid dynamics engineer you could end up making things worse. Also what fuel do you get there, will make a huge difference. All in all depending on your tuner it could possibly be done but it'll be pushing things harder to get to that point than it would with supporting mods. 2000 Legacy B4 RSK - SOLD 2006 Legacy BP5 GT Spec B wagon - Garage Thread 2011 VW T5 van 2.0L of turbo diesel awesomeness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylanGC Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 I ended up getting a Milltek turbo back system and a cosworth panel filter. Other mods are Forge Motorsport turbo actuator and GFB BOV set at 50/50. Made 326bhp at the fly after remap. http://i.imgur.com/z9owrWNl.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Mac Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Nice result, so about 185kw at the wheels, must be happy with it. 2000 Legacy B4 RSK - SOLD 2006 Legacy BP5 GT Spec B wagon - Garage Thread 2011 VW T5 van 2.0L of turbo diesel awesomeness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylanGC Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Yes, its driving so much better. Very happy with the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clam129 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Is this something a BOV could help with? I was looking into upgrading my turbo on my 2007 ej20 and was advised on a BOV. I will be getting a turbo back upgrade before the turbo upgrade but wouldn't a BOV help with this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Mac Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Carefull with the turbo back upgrade. The Legacy twinscroll flange is different to the style that comes with aftermarket Subaru turbo's. You have a particular turbo in mind? You only need a better BOV if pushing the boost past 19-20psi. Anything below that and the stock one will in most cases still cope. What is this problem that a BOV might fix? 2000 Legacy B4 RSK - SOLD 2006 Legacy BP5 GT Spec B wagon - Garage Thread 2011 VW T5 van 2.0L of turbo diesel awesomeness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuning Alliance Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 We can help you out with a good etune. Cryo is no longer etuning. Send us a PM can get the ball started. -Brian EDIT: Opps, I got had 2015 bumped post my bad. Contact us for all your tuning and performance parts needs! Etuning the legacy community since 2008! Follow us on FACEBOOK | INSTAGRAM [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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