PPower Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 That's it folks. Most people who buy a Legacy won't do anything to get more ponies out like we would/will. So if you knew that you wouldn't or couldn't do anything to it, which would you rather have? edit: and what affects your vote? Extreme heat climate choosing H6 to avoid heat soak? Mountainous or high altitude choosing FI for efficiency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ20H-TT Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 GT For the same power the GT will be lighter (smaller engine) and better balanced (less weight over front axle) Perhaps even more fuel efficient if u don't get on boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPower Posted January 20, 2004 Author Share Posted January 20, 2004 I put H6 because of the smoothness of the engine and typically a flatter torque curve. No turbo spool up to deal with at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBY Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Couldn't agree more with TT but I could see why people would want the H6 in the desert, on a trip south my WRX ran like a dog in 110F desert heat last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kage Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I prefer the lighter weight of the 2.5T and the greater flexibility in driving. I personally like the dual personality of a turbo car. Others prefer the linearity of the H6. Hooray for options! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 What Kage said. :D Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waflowers Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Vote is split 3:3 now. I voted with PPower for the H6 for the same reasons given the limitation that it wouldn't/couldn't be modded. However for me I'd take the 2.5T and not leave it stock! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurpman Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I voted H6. I think I would prefer the low end grunt with no turbo lag. Realistically, the H6 will come with auto only (correct?), in which case I would probably choose the 2.5T, even if I was not allowed to mod it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 voted for 2.5 T basically what kage said and i just love turbo and how it sounds :D Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMT4SWA Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 2.5L H4 Turbo for me. I just like the current tuning potential of this motor over the H6, and I do love turbo powered cars when they are tuned right! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPower Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 Now, now. No tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMT4SWA Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 O.K. for the first week maybe...but then......... :D :D :D :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbagger Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 I wonder if people refer to the turbo lag have only eperienced the WRX turbo. The Forester XT has next to no lag, the variable valving and smaller turbo/intercooler play into that. If the lgacy turbo is similar, the performance lost in respnse time will be minimal. The only reason I see for the H6 is the smoothness. NA works well with automatics, and will be good for those looking for class and smooth (competition for G35s and Acura TLs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtmy04 Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 [quote name='Derbagger']I wonder if people refer to the turbo lag have only eperienced the WRX turbo. The Forester XT has next to no lag, the variable valving and smaller turbo/intercooler play into that. If the lgacy turbo is similar, the performance lost in respnse time will be minimal. The only reason I see for the H6 is the smoothness. NA works well with automatics, and will be good for those looking for class and smooth (competition for G35s and Acura TLs).[/quote] I can only comment on the 2.0 turbo that we get in Australia; from a standstill there is a lag of 1-2 seconds when you put the boot in, but then she's gone. From any rolling start there is virtually no lag as the peak torque figure is at 2400 rpm (not much past walking pace). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPower Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 i have been told by somebody who tested out the H6 and the 2.0T that the H6 actually felt a little faster at the lower speeds. If it weren't for the tuning potential of FI, it's hard to beat NA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Well, I won't be able to stay away from mods! :P 'Hi my name is Seth and I'm a Subaholic.' Preston, there is no stopping my but my budget! Thats why I'm getting one early next year. Hmm, that special one WAFlowers was talking about. *scratches chin in deep thought* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ20H-TT Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Well u could always lightly turbocharge the flat six !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMT4SWA Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Heck.....BITURBO! (previous S4) :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waflowers Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 "There's no replacement for displacement." (Disclaimer for anal gearheads: I acknowelge the above isn't completely true in all circumstances but is a good generalization.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zevil Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Sometimes that statement can be true, when dealing with the average american lead-sled. I think that turbo'd cars are going to be the direction for performance in the future. You create a jekyl and hyde senario where you can drive the car like an econobox or open it up for some serious fun. Now turbo-deisel, that's a whole different can of worms. Technically there is no reason why a turbo application shouldn't fit all vehicle types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 I think you are right Dr. Zevil. I really think they need an econo model based on the R1e or similar sized vehicle with a body like this Honda... [img]http://www.boomplustoys.net/tokyoautosalon/thums/th_tas2004196.jpg[/img] and have the base be like a 1.5L Turbo (yes, they make a 1.5L engine) and make it a responsive little turbo with a CVT tranny (could be like 150hp and rather economical, perhaps high-30mpg range.) If it sold well, well the larger engines could get a little more free roam and not have to evade regulations by making cars considered trucks. The 3L turbo is said to be pretty good in its new form, with the 5EAT, a bit better, the sort of feed off each others newfound good points, a good 5MT or 6MT would be even better though! The 250/250 EJ255/257 engine in the new Leg should be wonderful as well, I think they have designed them to be close and a toss-up for many. For those of us who tune though, there is little second guessing. If I was buying one for my wife (still enjoying singlehood at this point :) ) and she wasn't too concerned one way or the other, the H6 would probably be the pick then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titsataki Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 if you would not mod at all then either one would be fine. A turbo car has a different feel than a naturally aspirated. I would drive them both and make a diecision. If someone was not a preformance enthusiast then the H6 would be just fine. But u r so what if you change your mind and decide to mod in the future? :) Cheers Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPower Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 By assuming no mods, it *should* make the preferences more similar to the general public who will be buying. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Hey Preston with this '250/250' turbo engine really be making 280/280? Are we working with a gentlemans rule here? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPower Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 I'm wondering if it may really be underspeced or not. While I originally had been thinking it could happen, I'm starting to doubt it some. If the JDM engines are showing 247-255hp & 230ft-lbs from dyno testing, I think 250/250 is quite nice. Maybe the specs are accurate, but I'd still like to hope for a hidden 20-30hp. (up-pipe & down-pipe ;) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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