islandborn Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Hey guys been absent for a while.. just catching up... + I have a 2012 LGT with the STS (the original one from Subaru) installed for a while now (first batch of stops) and I have had zero issues with it... Am I missing something? Nope.... unless you want to tighten things up...and like many of us, have to spend money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Hey guys been absent for a while.. just catching up... + I have a 2012 LGT with the STS (the original one from Subaru) installed for a while now (first batch of stops) and I have had zero issues with it... Am I missing something? If you don't have the issue that g5GT had (explained in previous posts here), then you probably don't need to worry about it. Maybe taking the trim off and taking a close look at the shifter function as it relates to the shifter stop would be a good idea to make sure there are no interferences. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidermanMTL Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If you don't have the issue that g5GT had (explained in previous posts here), then you probably don't need to worry about it. Maybe taking the trim off and taking a close look at the shifter function as it relates to the shifter stop would be a good idea to make sure there are no interferences. Ran out at lunch.. everything seems fine I have no hitting or rubbing(except the arm "hitting" the stop to line it up to the first/second gate) .. everything looks exactly how it was when I installed it... maybe i'm missing something I'll try and get some pics but I can't understand how the stop would affect the reverse lockout.. it's not close to it? MY BUILD TAKE 2 : http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/spideys-12lgt-take-2-266018.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronconia Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Chris (from Perrin) said the prob is only with the STI short shifter. Stock one is fine and does not need the "Version2". Soooo, just installed this tonight. I'm on the stock shifter, and it was happening to me. I re-adjusted everything, put it all back together, and didn't seem to notice it any longer...until I got home. I just happened to curl my fingers underneath the bottom of the shifter knob (and slightly above the reverse lever), and when I slid over from 3rd to 2nd, it raised ever so slightly. I started playing around with it. From the 3/4 gates to the 1/2, it raises the reverse lockout lever. I'll have to do some playing around with it tomorrow. Overall, with this stop and the shifter bushing...pretty nice feel! EDIT: Not sure if it matters...when I'd originally ordered from Perrin, they were on backorder. They told me to try Rallysport, and call back to cancel my order if they had them in stock. RSD did have it in stock, shipped the next day. Not sure if that matters on the version 1 or 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronconia Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Upon further playing around, it happens when shifting (up or down) into Second and Sixth. I'm going to have to get back in there and see if I'm somehow off a bit. Does anyone know if overtightening the two washers (7mm nut) would affect it? Or is it related to where I set the Perrin and Oem stops? I absolutely LOVE the way this thing shifts now, and the reverse lockout ring really isn't bothering me too much, I just want to make sure it doesn't somehow create wear on any parts as it currently sits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronconia Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Sorry, one more post. While installing, I DID notice that at one point, the second time I was tightening down the allen bolts for positioning, I could get the reverse lockout to completely pop up. The shifter mechanism would literally go on top of the Perrin stop, similar to what g5gt was experiencing. Now I'm wondering if somehow my car came with a short throw? It was a lease return from a gentleman who always buys his cars loaded with just about every option imagineable - I'm not sure if a STS was a factory option on a 2011. I didn't think Legacies came with that possibility. I've browsed the STS threads, and remember there's a certain telltale way to figure it out, is that something I can easily find? Sorry for the three posts, but any help would be greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandborn Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 STS was a factory option for all 5th gens with manuals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronconia Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Ok! I'm gonna go back and look, but without pulling the whole shifter out, is there a way to tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Sounds like there is a good possibility you got Version1 from RSD. How to tell if you have the Legacy STi STS.....go under the car. If there is an STi stamped into the rectangular silver cover on the bottom of the shifter, and I think there will be STi molded into the lower housing too, then you got it and need Version 2 of the Perrin Stop. These are pics of the WRX STS, but the Legacy STS is very similar. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/19/4a8d5d34e2e71e96e38f6ba0a1dfd3db.jpg http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/19/f80f70d50f3e70ac04e017763c7c4f0b.jpg GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cww516 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 You should be able to see the bottom of the shifter from under the car. Flat(ish) bottom is the standard shifter, the STI shifter has a couple dimples and an "STI" stamp. I think s2baru took some good pics of the one he was looking at buying locally, I'll see if I can find where he posted those. Edit: that's what I get for posting from my phone and trying to look busy at work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronconia Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Sounds like there is a good possibility you got Version1 from RSD. How to tell if you have the Legacy STi STS.....go under the car. If there is an STi stamped into the rectangular silver cover on the bottom of the shifter, then you got it and need Version 2 of the Perrin Stop. Thanks ! I'll check it out...I'm going to replace the temporary fabricated washer for the bushing with the OEM one later today, so I'll look at it then. In the meantime, I'm wondering if the fact that I got the shift stop from RSD rather than Perrin means that they didn't have the V2. I'll have to do some research, shoot Perrin an email. There wasn't any type of literature (that I can remember) denoting a V1 vs V2. EDIT: Thank again Joe, I'll look later today! Very easy to see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 When did you order the Stop from RSD? GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronconia Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Monday. I had put in order in on Friday from Perrin, called on Monday to check order status, and both the bushing/stop were on backorder. The very friendly people there told me to give RSD a call, so I did, and voila had it ordered and on a truck Monday afternoon (hooray for wholesale accounts!). I don't know how long they would have had it in stock though... It sounds like the V1 is has a slight diagonal shave to it, from what you guys have discussed? Is it discernible to the naked eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Let me see if I can get Chris at Perrin to post a few pics showing the difference between V1 and V2. Hold on...... GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronconia Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 If you aren't getting paid, you totally should be BEST FORUM EVAAAR!!!111!!111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Spoke with Chris at Perrin, he should be providing info and explanation of the way to tell the V1 from the V2 shortly. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PERRIN_Chris Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Hey guys, sorry I should have clarified earlier, if you guys are purchasing the shift stop directly from PERRIN, it will be the updated version. There will for sure be some of the previous version floating around from vendors. The best way to tell is the build date on the part number label. If the build date is after December 2014, it will be new version. If you're purchasing it from a vendor and have the STI short shifter, check the build date with them. It seems they're moving pretty quickly, so soon everyone will have the current version. The change is really small, so it's hard to tell from looking at pictures. I just checked, and we don't have any in stock at the moment, so we must have shipped all of our stock out to vendors. I know there's a lot of guys in this thread that are running the shifter stop with the stock shifter and it works fine, so I'm not sure what could be causing the issue for your car. Any one else getting that with the stock shifter? PS if you guys need to switch one out, let me know and I can help you with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 I know there's a lot of guys in this thread that are running the shifter stop with the stock shifter and it works fine, so I'm not sure what could be causing the issue for your car. Any one else getting that with the stock shifter? Just to clarify Chris, bronconia will be confirming his shifter later today or tomorrow. He assumes that what he has is the stock shifter, but it may be the Legacy STi STS, which would explain why he is having the issue with the stop. Also added Version 2 build date info to Post #1. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronconia Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Thanks Gteaser and Chris! As soon as I confirm the shifter on my car, I'll report back. Also, I'll check the part label when I get home! Thanks for the info and quick response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronconia Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 UPDATE : Build date on mine is 09-09-14 ! I'm heading over to throw the car up on the rack and take a look to see which shifter I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronconia Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Second update. I have the standard shifter! I'll just have to get back in there and do some tweaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandborn Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Well, did mine finally. Had to find a 7mm... Had a 6 and an 8 - of course, but no 7. I love this. Going into 1st is so much smoother, and I ride that stop down to second. Great little mod. Why Subaru had one for 5&6 gear but not the other side is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 We will be installing one of these on amidroc's car today....I am sure he'll be pleased. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandborn Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Hey, lost on why the washers behind the 7mm nuts.... Instructions say it's to close the gap but I didn't have any to start with ... Put them on anyways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amidroc Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I had something odd happen with the shift stop today. I was holding the gear shift while in a 2nd gear around a turn and the stick slipped over the stop. It caught me off gaurd. anyone else have this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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