Mindflux Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Oh, if you believe the car was never driven hard...I have a bridge, in NYC you may be interested in. I'll be 60y/o in a couple weeks. My cars never get driven hard either... Not everyone drives hard. I drive pretty conservatively 99% of the time and only hoon on it now and then. My father never drives is cars hard... so there are people out there that just don't. No idea how the PO drove though. Just told he was elderly and wanted something bigger to haul his grandkids in.. again no idea if that's truth or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindflux Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Still, it is really easy to take the side cover off for a quick inspection. It'll take 10mn of your time max (assuming the 10mm bolts are not stuck). I'll try to provide a picture if you don't know where these covers are. Ok I see the cover and popped it off. Belt looks ok, teeth don't show any cracks or wear to cause concern. Put the cover back on.. hand tight and then a little nudge of the wrench since 5nm is nearly nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Yep, those small bolts only need a little snugging. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJr Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Ok I see the cover and popped it off. Belt looks ok, teeth don't show any cracks or wear to cause concern. Put the cover back on.. hand tight and then a little nudge of the wrench since 5nm is nearly nothing. I'm sure mine would look the same at 91k since I drive like a grandpa 95% of the time too. Still changing it before end of year, don't want to think of what it will cost me if it does snap or pulley gives up the ghost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covertrussian Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Get a gates belt and pulley kit, and OEM water pump. Total cost ~$250. If you do it yourself, make sure you have the right clearance between the guides and the belt (IIRC, 1mm+/- 0.5mm). If not, it may cost you an engine... Indeed, if you get the gates belt kit it comes with a nice little red plastic to help you space out all of them clearances. http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t188/covertrussian/Cars/05%20LGT/Engine/General/Timing%20Belt/CIMG0803.jpg 05 LGT 16G 14psi 290whp/30mpg (SOLD) 12 OBP Stock 130whp/27mpg@87 Oct 00 G20t GT28r 10psi 250whp/36mpg 22 Ascent STOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Get a gates belt and pulley kit, and OEM water pump. Total cost ~$250. Indeed, if you get the gates belt kit it comes with a nice little red plastic to help you space out all of them clearances. http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t188/covertrussian/Cars/05%20LGT/Engine/General/Timing%20Belt/CIMG0803.jpg My Dayco kit as well, although mine was not as nice as the one pictured. This step is very important. Whoever installed the timing belt on my 06 did not put the right clearance. Belt rubbed, and somehow jumped 3 teeth three weeks ago (max tolerance before valves hit the piston according to manual). I was lucky to say the least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindflux Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 How does the clearance tool work? Since the belt guides and pulleys only go into their respective hole (that aren't elongated) how could you mess up the clearance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Once the bolts (holding the guides) are loosen, the guides have quite a bit of play to them to the point that they can rub the timing belt. So when they are loose, you put that tool in between the belt and guide, and tighten the bolts. That's all. If you're going to tackle this job, you should have a look at these videos. Been using them for two TB jobs. They are great. There are five of them. This is just part one. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mjCegTnB60]Meatys Subaru Timing Belt Guide (HD)(1/5) - YouTube[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 While your in there. might want to wipe off the crank position sensor too. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covertrussian Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 How does the clearance tool work? Since the belt guides and pulleys only go into their respective hole (that aren't elongated) how could you mess up the clearance? It's just a flexible piece of plastic. Just insert it between the belt and the belt guides and then tighten the belt guides. http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t188/covertrussian/Cars/05%20LGT/Engine/General/Timing%20Belt/CIMG0655.jpg~original http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t188/covertrussian/Cars/05%20LGT/Engine/General/Timing%20Belt/CIMG0804.jpg~original 05 LGT 16G 14psi 290whp/30mpg (SOLD) 12 OBP Stock 130whp/27mpg@87 Oct 00 G20t GT28r 10psi 250whp/36mpg 22 Ascent STOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StkmltS Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Subbed for reference. I have about 97k on my '05 GT and I plan on doing this in the spring. My DiySB rebuild Got Misfires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outahere Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Subbed for reference. I have about 97k on my '05 GT and I plan on doing this in the spring. Me too. I have 55K on my '05. Will leave the water pump in place. Rarely hear of water pump problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 55k? That's it? wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJr Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Once the bolts (holding the guides) are loosen, the guides have quite a bit of play to them to the point that they can rub the timing belt. So when they are loose, you put that tool in between the belt and guide, and tighten the bolts. That's all. If you're going to tackle this job, you should have a look at these videos. Been using them for two TB jobs. They are great. There are five of them. This is just part one. Damn you're tempting me to do this myself and save $400 in labor , I'd need to buy some more tools, just a bit apprehensive to tackle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StkmltS Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Damn you're tempting me to do this myself and save $400 in labor , I'd need to buy some more tools, just a bit apprehensive to tackle it. If you feel like driving to KY in the spring come on down (or up) and we can tackle our wagons one weekend. I have a large garage so it'll happen rain or shine. You'd save $ on tools too... My DiySB rebuild Got Misfires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 It seems scary at first, but it's really not that bad as long as you follow the instructions. Meatys guide is really spot on. I changed the TB on my two subies and each time, I used their videos. I had my tablet placed on the intercooler, played a segment, paused it, repeated the steps myself, and kept on going this way. Worked great for me . But I would not have minded having a buddy with me, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJr Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 If you feel like driving to KY in the spring come on down (or up) and we can tackle our wagons one weekend. I have a large garage so it'll happen rain or shine. You'd save $ on tools too... Really appreciate the offer, it would be across, I'm in NV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covertrussian Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 It's honestly not that hard, I was worried about it at first, but after doing it once it was a piece of cake. Much easier then trying to replace a timing chain (and I love timing chains.) Even at 55k miles I would still consider replacing water pump. They tend to go out at 130k miles. But if you think you will put only 60k miles in next 8 years then hold off. Here's my timing belt replacement steps & pics. 05 LGT 16G 14psi 290whp/30mpg (SOLD) 12 OBP Stock 130whp/27mpg@87 Oct 00 G20t GT28r 10psi 250whp/36mpg 22 Ascent STOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJr Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Still considering, thx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 read the threads about this job in the DIY, walk through forums and the long term maintenance forums. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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