AKLGT Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 maybe i'll be ready for a new car when this comes out.... provided they haven't done anything hideous to the exterior! Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommyh Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 ...that artical makes me hot... Martin Luther - "Who loves not women, wine and song remains a fool his whole life long." EL4NFZT7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jedi Pimp Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I would rather see SOA come out with a standard 6spd man & a 7spd auto (Mercedes) both of those options could come to reality for much..much less. The real world savings would be far greater, not to mention long term maintenance with the Hybrid......CHECKBOOK PLEASE;) +123 How much would it really cost to have the non-DCCD six speed with a tall overdrive? Bring it beotches!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 +456 They already have the damned 6MT. A 6EAT can't be that hard... It is in the Legacy 3.0R Spec B, but that car doesn't exist in the US. All they would need to do is bolt it to the US 2.5 Turbo engine, and call it good. (and throw in some other JDM/ROW bits, while you're at it... HIDS, McIntosh, etc...) CAR Magazine in Britain had a blurb on other hot affordable cars, and the Legacy was included... They mentioned that it badly needed a 6th gear... We're not CRAZY! People who know for a living agree with us! I second that motion to bring it, biatches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommyh Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 If I could get a more powerful hybrid Legacy GT wagon at, or near, the same weight as my un-limited 5mt GT wagon with a 6mt; I would take the financial hit and buy it ASAP! Martin Luther - "Who loves not women, wine and song remains a fool his whole life long." EL4NFZT7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doteleven Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 As a few others here have said - the low end torque would be worth it. In fact, I'd willingly give up HP to get low end grunt. However, if other hybrid cars are any indication, don't expect there to be a manual transmission car in the near future. Even the Prius is still basically a niche vehicle (ok - not a nichey as a Legacy GT MT5 wagon..). There is only one stick shift hybrid, and it is a Civic. Although there are high performance hybrids such as the GS400h, I suspect that the costs of EPA certifying a stick shift hybrid and the amazing volumes of 5MT Legacies that are currently sold will prevent SOA from ever offering this car as a manual. I suppose you could just buy one and then rip off an STi drive train, but now you'd be 50K into the investment, and probably more considering the myriad electronic systems you'd have to custom reprogram at $150/hr or more. Albert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Can't wait for COBB to develop maps for it- where's that guy that wanted to see the 2015 Legacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elej Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 personally, i'm not understanding the hybrid enthusiasm. don't get me wrong, i think it is neat technology, but i don't see the real benefit. (as of yet, anyway) if performance is up, what about the extra weight? how do aging batteries affect performance? (all batteries diminish with age) if saving the environment is your thing, even if it gets 50mpg, what about battery disposal when they do wear out? batteries are far more harmful to the environment than gas emissions. and the additional materials that go into the manufacture of two powerplants must come from somewhere and then eventually disposed of somewhere. if your trying to save a buck, the $2k+ premium for hybrids buys a lot of gas. then when the batteries do need to be replaced, they are not exactly cheap. i don't mean to pee in anybody's pool, but these are some questions i'd like to see answered before i'm ready to drop the ducats. and that's not even getting into the electric schock hazard when hybrids are involved in accidents.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doteleven Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 personally, i'm not understanding the hybrid enthusiasm. don't get me wrong, i think it is neat technology, but i don't see the real benefit. (as of yet, anyway) if performance is up, what about the extra weight? how do aging batteries affect performance? (all batteries diminish with age) if saving the environment is your thing, even if it gets 50mpg, what about battery disposal when they do wear out? batteries are far more harmful to the environment than gas emissions. and the additional materials that go into the manufacture of two powerplants must come from somewhere and then eventually disposed of somewhere. if your trying to save a buck, the $2k+ premium for hybrids buys a lot of gas. then when the batteries do need to be replaced, they are not exactly cheap. i don't mean to pee in anybody's pool, but these are some questions i'd like to see answered before i'm ready to drop the ducats. and that's not even getting into the electric schock hazard when hybrids are involved in accidents.... To me, the point of buying a hybrid would be threefold 1) fewer trips to the gas station. To save time, not money. I can easily afford gas! 2) less impact on the environment. Less gas used means fewer hydrocarbons in the air. 3) more torque. You've gotta love a hybrid turbo - grunt down low and hp up high. It would be a wonderful combination Problem is that I will only drive stick shift all wheel drive cars, and I'm not holding my breath for a hybrid that meets those qualifications! Albert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Let's not get into the whole environmental impact thing. We're going to impact the environment in big ways until magic comes along. Just think of the impact of producing hydrogen as well as those giant batteries hybrids use. I'm all for a small increase in price ( a premium of up to 2K would be acceptable) for a well made and powerful hybrid model that A: saves a bit of gas (this is about me, not the environment- worry about buses and construction vehicles, not to mention cows before you worry about our little passenger cars) and B: is the same as or higher powered than the regular model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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