roll_tide Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 Nope, and please don't try the halogen projetors aren't designed for HID's. Honestly though, I wish I had done this upgrade a long time ago. Spend the extra coin and just do it right the first time. Take a look/ask this question at HID Planet if you want some more knowledgeable advice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker1315 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Well that's all the explanation I needed hah, Retro-Quik Kit has been ordered. Thanks for the help, and I will give any feedback in my install in the comings days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Really the only thing you can do to improve the stockers is bend the shield down and cover the squirrel finders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roll_tide Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 The hardest part about this install is opening up the headlights. If you're in there... Might as well make the swap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkaic Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 The output is night and day compared to PnP kits. Probably the reason why you got so much color at the cutoff was that you bent the shield? Anyways, i'm probably gonna go get a set now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roll_tide Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Nope, no shield bending was needed for color just the clarity of the line at 10-20ft. No washers added either. I did make a squirrel finder delete though. Great, you'll be happy with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Sorry, when I said "bend the shields" I meant the squirrel finders. There are also two holes in the "middle" part of the cutoff shield that allow light through to illuminate above the cutoff line (I believe also contribute to "squirrel finder" illumination) I can take pics of stock projectors to show what I mean if needed, or maybe someone else has a better way of explaining. Once the new set is on and finished I'm doing a dual bixenon (some call quad xenon) legal demon eye projector retrofit just to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 The squirrel finders are technically part of the cutoff shield on our (05-09) projectors. My bad for the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Nope, no shield bending was needed for color just the clarity of the line at 10-20ft. No washers added either. I did make a squirrel finder delete though. Great, you'll be happy with this. Wait, you did a squirrel finder delete on Mini H1's? They don't have squirrel finders. Did you go a different route than earlier posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkaic Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 And in terms of alignment, was it level from the start? was there any way to fine tune the alignment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roll_tide Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 This is what I made, the tin behind thr screws on the back of the solenoid holding it together. The two "slats" from the hinges cause a "glare box" (what one of the hidplanet guys called it at least). Pic attached. Alignment was fine, but I think I was lucky. I had to slot one of the mounting holes on the retro-quik bracket, kinda scary. I guess 3 points can't shift a system but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible001 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Surprisingly the stock projectors with good a quality hid system and a black series clear lens have some amazing light output and the color flicker is quite impressive. Only problem I've noticed with the stock projectors is the bowls burn out quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboboost Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 And in terms of alignment, was it level from the start? was there any way to fine tune the alignment? You'll likely have to adjust alignment post-install (I know I did). But that's easy -- there are 2 bolts on each headlight assembly for vertical and horizontal adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippob98 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Surprisingly the stock projectors with good a quality hid system and a black series clear lens have some amazing light output and the color flicker is quite impressive. Only problem I've noticed with the stock projectors is the bowls burn out quickly. Amazing light output? You've never seen a proper HID projector then. The halogen bowls are far from amazing. You might be getting a nice Cutoff and some nice color, but that doesn't help you for actually projecting light down the road. Plus the squirrel finders are gonna blind people! Don't give people ideas that it's OK to put hid kits in halogen headlights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Catalyst. Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 My spec.B [#163] Project Thread with Pictures Get CryoTuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 go with rx330 non afs's.........they bolt directly into our headlight bracket without additional hardware. You can use the legacy sheilds if you want, or you can go buck nasty and get someone to mod the rx330's for you....... If I wanted to do this, what parts would I buy? Is there a kit available? Who would do the mods? How much work to do it after it's done? Looking more for ease-of-installation at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 If I wanted to do this, what parts would I buy? Is there a kit available? Who would do the mods? How much work to do it after it's done? Looking more for ease-of-installation at this point. Then you want mini h1s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Then you want mini h1s Is this a TRS retro-quick option/kit? Or something else? I'm relatively new to the headlight retrofit game. Does it include replacement lenses? Mine are pretty cloudy, and I had them cleaned just over a year ago and it's already back... Wouldn't mind paying for better lenses if such a thing exists and the price is not outrageous.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippob98 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Hadvw, You can get rx330 non afs projectors or maxima projectors (retrofit source sells the maximas in their closeout section). Basically you would use the legacy shield with a clear lens and the maxima projector bowl. There are a couple threads that show exactly what to do. Here's one :http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/rx330-oem-conversion-full-oem-hids-write-up-56028.html?t=56028 Here's another using a custom shield and maxima projectors :http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?54045-2009-Subaru-Outback-by-greenkouki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible001 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Amazing light output? You've never seen a proper HID projector then. The halogen bowls are far from amazing. You might be getting a nice Cutoff and some nice color, but that doesn't help you for actually projecting light down the road. Plus the squirrel finders are gonna blind people! Don't give people ideas that it's OK to put hid kits in halogen headlights! ok amazing light out put for a bowl that was intended for a halogen bulb, and yes it does help greatly for putting light down the road. you obviously have never tired to modify projectors yourself... its easy to pay someone to do it for you. they're are not quite as wide as the true HID projectors that I have retro fitted into other styles of headlight, TSX, Evox, FX-r, Rx330, but they do a very good job improving light performance but only with modification. the squirrel finders can easily be bent down or modified to reduce glare. to get that output the projector must have a black series lens with proper spacing in the lens holder. I would never recommend anyone put an HID kit in a non projector halogen headlight but with proper modifications the stock projector can have great light out put for anyone that's on a budget and isn't requiring a bi-xenon projector. And the color flicker is on par with heavily modified TXS projectors. You'd be surpised how good of a projector these OEM ones can be considering they were never designed to be used with an HID system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roll_tide Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 ok amazing light out put for a bowl that was intended for a halogen bulb, and yes it does help greatly for putting light down the road. you obviously have never tired to modify projectors yourself... its easy to pay someone to do it for you. they're are not quite as wide as the true HID projectors that I have retro fitted into other styles of headlight, TSX, Evox, FX-r, Rx330, but they do a very good job improving light performance but only with modification. the squirrel finders can easily be bent down or modified to reduce glare. to get that output the projector must have a black series lens with proper spacing in the lens holder. I would never recommend anyone put an HID kit in a non projector halogen headlight but with proper modifications the stock projector can have great light out put for anyone that's on a budget and isn't requiring a bi-xenon projector. And the color flicker is on par with heavily modified TXS projectors. You'd be surpised how good of a projector these OEM ones can be considering they were never designed to be used with an HID system Would love to see your pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Is this a TRS retro-quick option/kit? Or something else? I'm relatively new to the headlight retrofit game. Does it include replacement lenses? Mine are pretty cloudy, and I had them cleaned just over a year ago and it's already back... Wouldn't mind paying for better lenses if such a thing exists and the price is not outrageous.. Right here is EVERYTHING you need. No mixing parts needed, and it's bixenon. http://www.theretrofitsource.com/complete-retrofit-kits/morimoto-retro-quik-system-subaru-legacy-2003-2009.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 ok amazing light out put for a bowl that was intended for a halogen bulb, and yes it does help greatly for putting light down the road. you obviously have never tired to modify projectors yourself... its easy to pay someone to do it for you. they're are not quite as wide as the true HID projectors that I have retro fitted into other styles of headlight, TSX, Evox, FX-r, Rx330, but they do a very good job improving light performance but only with modification. the squirrel finders can easily be bent down or modified to reduce glare. to get that output the projector must have a black series lens with proper spacing in the lens holder. I would never recommend anyone put an HID kit in a non projector halogen headlight but with proper modifications the stock projector can have great light out put for anyone that's on a budget and isn't requiring a bi-xenon projector. And the color flicker is on par with heavily modified TXS projectors. You'd be surpised how good of a projector these OEM ones can be considering they were never designed to be used with an HID system Problem is you'll burn the chrome off the projector bowl because they weren't designed for the heat output of xenon bulbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chutoyy Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Here's my LGT bowl with halogen bulbs (after 9 years) Halogen vs. PNP HID (stock projectors) PNP HID vs. MH1 6.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chutoyy Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Talking about modifying cut-off shields... if you spray paint them, you can get color reflection off the bowl giving your car 'colored eyes' (If you're not careful, your bi-x shield may 'stick' and light output is not affected for typical use) Also, TRS offers "Value" series MH1 projectors. Works just as well as the top-notch MH1 6.0's but for $50/pair.... Can't really beat that. http://www.theretrofitsource.com/closeouts/6-0-b-stock-h1-bi-xenon-projectors.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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