robmat Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 I attempted to install this a few minutes ago on my 2005 LGT and it seems there is some sort of baffle that prevents it from threading in al the way. Is this correct or am I crazy? And, if that is the case, is there a magnetic drain plug that will work? Thanks- Robmat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigleben Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Greddy drain plug works fine for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmat Posted October 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 13, 2013 Seems like the magnet is too long and bottoms out on something inside the oil pan. The Greddy looks to be similar to the Mishimoto, so I'm thinking that won't do the job either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmat Posted October 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 13, 2013 Ok. So there is definitely a baffle or stop or something in there that prevents the plug from threading all of the way down. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/14/yne2y7am.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/14/beqy5ata.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 If I remember correctly some oil pans have the baffle, others don't. And it's a random figure if there is one or not. Probably different manufacturers of the oil pans. Drop the pan, drill a suitable hole in it to make the magnet poke through, wash away all metal residue and put back the pan with a new gasket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12sechatch Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 ^^or...dont worry about putting a magnetic plug on. Any shavings a magnetic plug will catch will not matter to the safety of your engine. And if it does catch a metal piece that will adversely effect your engine, you have bigger issues because something has already blown up/broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Yeah I never got the reasoning behind a two filtered system getting a magnetic bolt. Oil pump has a basic screen and you have an oil filter. A diff on the other hand should always have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 The less metal floating around in your lubrication, the better. Even if the metal particulates are very, very fine, they are still considered an abrasive. With a magnetic drainplug, you're not talking about preventing a catastrophic failure or something where a giant chunk of metal is floating around. You're talking about keeping very, very fine metal out of the oil and reducing wear over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 The less metal floating around in your lubrication, the better. Even if the metal particulates are very, very fine, they are still considered an abrasive. With a magnetic drainplug, you're not talking about preventing a catastrophic failure or something where a giant chunk of metal is floating around. You're talking about keeping very, very fine metal out of the oil and reducing wear over time. Doesn't the oil filter catch this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Oil filters don't catch everything, and they can only catch down to a certain size. Take the P1 oil filter, for example. I believe those catch about 99% of particulates down to 20 microns, which is excellent. The stuff a powerful magnetic drain plug can catch is significantly smaller than that, in the single digit micron range. The question you should be asking isn't whether or not the plug catches stuff that your oil filter and screens miss (because it does); it's whether or not metal particulates that small can cause engine wear/damage over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 ^^or...dont worry about putting a magnetic plug on. Any shavings a magnetic plug will catch will not matter to the safety of your engine. And if it does catch a metal piece that will adversely effect your engine, you have bigger issues because something has already blown up/broken. The point is that you may catch stuff on your magnet early and avoid costly repairs. If you find a nut on the magnet you may ask yourself, WTF is that nut doing there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theflystyle Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Soooooooooooo What if you combined the magnet WITH the filter.... http://www.shopfiltermag.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I used to have a slice/arc of a cylindrical rare earth magnet on my oil filter. It was an unbelievably powerful magnet, very dangerous around your credit cards (could easily wipe/corrupt them if you got within a a foot or two of them with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp233 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Would be kinda cool to have a round strong magnet that you could attach to the oil filter itself, re-using it by cleaning it at every oil change. Anyways if one of these motors has enough metal that would stick to a magnet in the oil, the thing needs to come apart anyways..... the only steel parts are oil pump gears, crank, valves, cams, rods, piston wristpins/rings/circlips, bolts... yeah, mine has the little baffle around the drain plug opening in the bottom of the pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Anyways if one of these motors has enough metal that would stick to a magnet in the oil,Sorry, but that's simply not true. Smaller particles actually stick more readily to a magnet than larger ones. Think about it.. what's easier to pick up with a magnet: a large chunk of steel or a powdered steel particles? Every engine has metal wear. It happens, period. Adding a magnetic drain plug in doesn't hurt and can only help. I've been running with one for over 35K miles (currently at 84K), and my last car had one for a good 50K miles (got rid of the car at about 170K). The plugs always came out with some metallic sludge on it, even when I first put it in immediately after the first oil change. Please don't try to tell me that "[my engine] needs to come apart anyways." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp233 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I meant any shavings or pieces, not the metallic sludge that every engine makes some of. I have over 500,000 miles between the various subies of mine and my family. Never a piece of metal in a one of them, ever. so what would i know. This 06 LGT i am fixing i bought it destroyed. I never said it was a bad idea, its cheap feelgood and can show you when something is going very wrong. But when do you see it? Only at OCI. An older Chevy truck i had, i put a magnetic drain plug and it pulled some sludge but not a lot, but consistent. So a decent indicator. However, contrary to an EJ it was all steel and iron, and pushrod 2V per cylinder, and engine specs are more loose in general. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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