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are aftermarket Stage 1 Maps worth it over stock cobb map


ashwinearl

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2005 Legacy GT Wagon 5MT:

I just got a Cobb Accessport and installed the stock Stage 1 Map. 93 octane in VA, haven't test driven yet.

 

I was wondering if the alternative maps offered by etuners like PDX, Bren, etc. are worth the approx $150 compared to the stock map that comes with the Cobb (updated to latest firmware).

 

Naturally, my goal is a stage 2 with catless up pipe and downpipe, but am not sure when that will happen. Should I save the cash and put it towards the Stage 2 and get an e tune then?

 

very best.

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Honestly, I have gotten 2 e tunes thus far and the cobb stock stage one feels pretty good. I have a pdx tune, it's nice but I experience slight low end knock so don't use it, also am currently trying a e tune from infamous tuning, this far it does feel nice, still working on revision 2, 4 weeks in:spin: Shamar takes a long time, everyone says it's worth it so I am waiting patiently, I did read the thread so was 100% aware it may take a while. I do like my afr's better on the tune by Shamar I think $150 is worth it, the tuner reviews your logs and makes sure your running well. Eventually I want a real tune on the dyno, but am going to wait to install the 18g and downpipe.
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Here is a learning view shot of a stock 2006 spec b, with Cobb's OTS map. A lot of flkc in high load/rpm ranges. I've found the OTS maps add too much timing (this is in salt lake, elevation about 4,500ft and 91 octane map). The car also had a k&n drop in panel filter, but nothing else.

The other learning view is after I tuned the car to stage 1 (he sold the AP) and went back to the paper oem filter. No changes to the maf scaling.

 

The Cobb OTS LV is on the right.

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My Cobb OTS stg1 and stg2 logs have looked pretty clean. Response is good from the car.

 

That said, I'll be installing some more parts, and getting a BrenTune or Tuning Alliance etune once I have more money.

 

But at stg1 with updated maps, I think the Cobb is fine. Pull some logs to check it out, and/or run the 91oct map with 93oct. That's what I'm doing (Cobb OTS stg2 91oct with 93oct gas).

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My Cobb OTS stg1 and stg2 logs have looked pretty clean. Response is good from the car.

 

That said, I'll be installing some more parts, and getting a BrenTune or Tuning Alliance etune once I have more money.

 

But at stg1 with updated maps, I think the Cobb is fine. Pull some logs to check it out, and/or run the 91oct map with 93oct. That's what I'm doing (Cobb OTS stg2 91oct with 93oct gas).

 

That's from a V3 AP running the lastest 91 map.

Yep, no scaling done at all to the MAF.

 

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