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Did the test drive ever happen?

Yes. I test drove it. The Sport setting did tighten up the ride a lot. But I didn't find Sports+ make a lot of difference. I did a few 0-40 under traffic lights, I didn't find it very quick. But it met my expectations. I just wanted a unique car in good condition. What killed the deal is that the dealer really didn't want to reduce the price by one dollar which made me very suspicious. The next day car was sold. Damn, I really don't know how things work now. I used to be able to bargain a truck load off the asking price.

 

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Stock Subaru BRZ has various sizes. 17x7 17x7.5 and 18 inch wheels. Also have offset 48. Seems good for you. The best looking is the 17x7.5 performance package wheels which typically goes for $440-500 a set. No tires.

 

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Man, I just realized that this forum is called LGT, not just legacy. No wonder everyone is talking about GT. What is the most appropriate forum for 3.0r owners? Nasoic?

 

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I guess it depends what you're interested in. If you want to mod the engine and make more power then the 3.0r isn't what you want. Also if you want to drive a manual then, at least in North America, the 3.0r also isn't what you want as it was never offered as a manual here.

 

With that out of the way I personally think it fits nicely into a category of it's own. I wanted a nice daily driver without the worry and work that comes with a turbo. I also didn't want a dog. Additionally I wanted an optioned up 4th Gen. Which means the obvious option at that point is the 3.0r. It was also still designed with sport/performance in mind compared to the 2.5i. Same brakes as the GT, same suspension as the spec b, and same power distribution (F 45, R 55).

 

Getting back to the category. The fact that it's in its own I think makes it "less desirable" For people that want all out performance the GT is the answer. For someone that wants economy there's the 2.5i. Which leaves the 3.0r. seeing as the two most obvious categories are already filled, there isn't really much of a market left for it. Which is kind of the category I explained above. And I don't think there are many consumers in that category, hence it's less popular.

 

I guess a good way to look at it is, it's a GT with an NA engine. And a good/reliable NA at that.

 

I drove a GT and a 3.0r back to back, with the GF. And for different reasons we both liked the 3.0r more, it's such a nice and smooth engine.

 

Stock for stock I would much prefer the 3.0r. But it's not really a comparison anymore when you start to mod a GT or want a manual.

 

The 5eat isn't great. And does feel like it's letting the rest of the car down as far as feel is concerned. But it can be tweaked a bit for improvement via tuning. For me I was ok with the auto for my daily. A 6mt would be a ton more fun though. But again was never offered here.

Nice. My BRZ is a stick shift. Don't need another one. Also the 45:55 torque distribution is great. I guess this is the dream of an Audi? Is the 45:55 all the time, or it is the max which happens at certain RPM and engine load?

 

Also I read these cars have Bilstein suspension, which is great. However, how long do these Bilstein last? Should I be ready to pony up $2k to replace those dampers?

 

Finally, do you know the weight distribution? I always thought there's a connection between weight and torque distribution for AWD cars. But I don't know for sure.

 

 

 

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Reading the posts in the forum, everyone , almost, is talking about LGT. Is LGT that much desirable than a 3.0R?

 

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Thanks. I didn't realize that the valuation for these cars is so robust. I was hoping to negotiate about $1k off. Maybe not.

 

From my limited awd knowledge I think these 3.0r should have a more than decent all wheel drive. But I am kinda surprised that the HP is only 180+. So the engine is designed to spin slower but generate decent torque at the lower end?

 

How is the shifting quality of the automatic transmission? I think I am going to test drive it tomorrow and getting a bit serious. Thanks for the input.

 

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Hi Guys,

 

Owner of a Subaru BRZ here. But I am not sure about other Subaru cars. Today I came across a nice clean copy of a 2008 3.0R. It has about 65k miles and dealer is asking about $8k. I looked at the carfax report. There wasn't an accident, but damage was reported once back in 2011. The damage spot is driver side quarter post. It seems to have been repaired. Cannot see what is obviously wrong here.

 

So my question is how is the long term reliability of these cars after 11 years? Does the engine tend to blow gasket or not and whether the transmission is durable in the long run. Finally of course, whether the price is too high? It is sold at a Honda dealer. So I am not sure how much I can bargain down the price. Thanks for any suggestions!