hoovman

No 2.5i people who attempted this?

 

Anyway, when I get 2.5i, I'll try to do that since I have the audio-control wheel already on my LGT.

If you succeed in installing the audio controls wheel on your 2.5i, I might do mine. I've had my radio out before to do the Jazzy aux-in mod so NBD there. I'm a little nervous working around the airbag though. Think I could find a shop that would do it for me?

Got mine installed a while back. Took 2-3 hours and was pretty straight forward except for the armrest clips! Ended up pulling *back* and up and (memory is a little fuzzy here) disconnecting the clips from the wrong (car body, not armrest) side! Ended up getting one out but broke the other. Seems to hold ok with just the 1.

I picked a spot in the armrest cubby (next to the 12V) to mount a panel mount female jack. Drilled from above instead of underneath, and ended up having to enlarge the hole a little too much just to get the back side of the jack to end up flush with the underside of the cubby. It looks a little crappy if you shine a flashlight in the cubby and look closely, and it's a little looser than I'd like, but otherwise it's fine!

I connected the female aux in jack to GLI which was plugged into jazzy.

Then I went to get the ipod to check it out and... dead ipod battery:icon_mad: . I had planned to use a dock-to-male audio cable and just recharge the ipod at home. Instead, I today finally got a car charger to plug into the doc port (to power the ipod) and a short m-to-m audio cable from the ipod headphone jack to the my new female aux in. Dropped in my blank cd, pressed play on the ipod and... Success!

Thanks Jazzy! My 2 hour car trip today is going to be great!

Sorry. It's still a very handy device to have around (just in case). Also, I've stopped relying on anyone at all reading the FAQ...or even the first few lines of the first post. I've answered every question so many times, via PM, email and forum posts that I've essentially given up. If you're using an iPod, likely you'll want to add a powered charger though to get a line level out...in which case, the GLI becomes useful.

No big deal.

I got a dock-connector-to-3.5 mm cable that's unpowered, so it turns out I have a GLI-free solution with line level. At least it's one fewer set of plugs between the source and the receiver

If you're not powering the MP3 player in any way by the car, a GLI is completely unnecessary.

D'OH! I Wish you'd said this before I bought my just-in-case GLI.

Maybe add it to the FAQ or the top page of the thread?

PolarDog,

Thanks for the great pix! Unfortunately it looks to me like a prescription for a stiff neck. But you helped me make up my mind.

I'm going to go with the retractable cord I found that has a dock connector on one end and a male 3.5mm on the other. It's a little more work to connect, but I think it will be better for my wife and me.

Thanks again!

Great pix PolarDog! I haven't done my install yet and now you've seriously got me thinking about the flexibledock!

Could you do me (and others thinking about the same dock) a favor? I'd like to see pics of how far left and right the iPod can turn when in your setup. With the iPod oriented the way you have it, I think my passenger would get a stiff neck if she wanted to browse music.

Thanks,

Jeff

With the boy taking his afternoon nap, I had some time to complete the install. So, I took my time and lucky for me I had no trouble with loosening screws, cables or components.

 

Installed the board as per instructions and tips. I connected the male-to male 6' cable to the board and routed it through the armrest extension. I plugged the GLI in so that it was accessible without any future tear-apart, and then connected the GLI to this dock: (http://www.tentechnology.com/products/products_flexibledock.php). When all was said and done, no trips to Radio Shack were required and no extra connectors or couplers were used. The iPod can be connected quickly with one hand (no fumbling with a connector cable each time I get into the car) and it is within quick reach while in the car (see pics).

 

Now for the Emmy speech: I think any comment of thanks to Jazzy will be grossly understated, but thanks very much Jazzy for your effort and the detail in your work. Thanks for the many other tips in the posts. They were ALL helpful and some were entertaining (going Chuck Norris on the console and going Hogmeat-style.... Man, you cannot buy these types of very useful and accurate descriptions... I wish I could offer some great tip on the install, but as I look back, they were already covered! Thanks again Jazzy and thanks again everyone! (queue the music, go to commercial...)

 

PolarDog

I went to your website. Cool! One small request - please add cable lengths to your descriptions.

Some other products you might consider stocking:

http://www.datapro.net/products/1224.html

http://www.datapro.net/products/1223.html

http://www.welovemacs.com/zipaudioip1.html

No, I didn't look at the windings, and if the label is oriented correctly (which we have to assume it is) then you are correct and the male end is the output. That's just bass ackwards though because with the RCA unit, I'm pretty sure male is the input...? Wierd eh?

PAC is lazy/cheap. Look at the 2 GLIs. They both use the same sticker! Notice that on the on the left-hand side of the 3.5, it says:

LEFT

OUTPUT

RIGHT

just like it does on the RCA, even though the 3.5 doesn't have separate wires for left and right!

I'm not sure I trust the sticker now.

I stupidly hooked the GLI directly to the jazzy unit. I should have run a plain patch cable out of the head unit and kept the GLI outside of the head unit.

I'm already going to have iPod -> patch cable -> GLI. I'm not sure if I want to add that last patch cable so that the GLI is outside the head.

It's a tough call. If you use another patch cable you get the benefit of the GLI being accessible but you also add another plug connection into it.

Jazzy, you seem to imply that you opened a PAC GLI to look at the windings. Can you say definitevely which direction it is?

Originally Posted by ilh

When I wired my Crutchfield 3.5mm GLI in, it seemed like it was backwards. The "IN" side (male) was toward the jazzy, but to do it any other way would require an adapter between the jazzy and the GLI. It sounds fine that way.

Yup, you put it in backwards...like you said, it works though so it's fine. The PAC GLI doesn't have even windings though (not 1:1), so it really is directional...if you put it in backwards, you're reducing your signal strength, whereas the correct orientation will boost your signal a bit...not a lot though, so backwards still works.

The Crutchfield pic below looks to me like Male = output. So the male should plug straight into the jazzy.

{Output of iPod -> input (F) of GLI -> output of GLI -> input of jazzy (F) -> head}

Am I wrong?

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2005/127/x127SNi135-f.jpeg

im taking mine and installing it at work tomorrow...

No, No! Install it in the car!

http://www.installer-data.com/item/display_item.php?it=99-8901

 

 

didnt know if this would help. i didnt see it posted anywhere so i thought i would just try to lend a hand.

Nice find! It should be a real help to those who have the manual climate controls!

Plan for convincing wife that her car needs Jazzy:

- Buy iPod and FM modulator

- Make a playlist of all her favorite songs. Buy CDs or iTunes to fill the gaps in your collection. Remember, it's *her* favorite songs (both of yours is OK too, but not *your* favorite songs)

- Burn a CD of her playlist.

- Take her on a road trip and play her songs from the iPod over FM. Highlight the virtues of commercial-free music. Show the headache of FM modulation.

- Give her the CD.

Not only will she finally "get it" - at least my wife did- but she'll dig you for paying attention to something she likes and doing something nice for her.

And I just found an A/B 3.5 mm audio switch!

http://electronicsusa.com/mk1and2.html

n8gray has an awesome photo blog about doing the install - his post is here:

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=321634#post321634

I just thought it would be good to remind people it's there. I'll be studying it before I do my install.

I followed Jazzy's method of zip-tieing it to the radios power cord. I cinched it down tight and don't expect it to allow the jack to disconnecct. I used a 3' male 1/8" to RCA and they RCA's ended up just in front of the shifter. 3' seems like the perfect length to gain access if you want to change your cables down the line. This was pure dumb luck on my part.

 

I had planned on installing the jack in the center armrest as well but found the plastic was likely to be too thick for the jack I had from RS. Granted this was just my best guess but I didn't want to drill holes to find out later it wasn't going to work. I don't have the tools to thin out the plastic if it needed it. The other issue I ran into was space. Make sure you consider location before soldering the jack. Both of mine have the cable parallel to the jack. Orienting the cable 90 degrees may allow for different set ups.

 

 

Can you tell I didn't read the instructions yet? I didn't know about Jazzy's zip-tie method.

Here's the panel mount I was thinking about - http://www.datapro.net/products/1224.html

I've got to believe the plastic of the armrest floor is thin enough for that.

I forgot one detail for my "clean" install. The gf filter - there's a 3.5M to 3.5F at crutchfield. too bad that makes another pair of connections.

Thank you very much, but I have sirius in my 4Runner direct connected to a pioneer head unit and want to stick with Sirius + Howard

starmate?

This Jensen?

This JVC one?

yeah, I want sat. and one for my MP3 player which uses the normal head phones jack like the jazzy. What do Most external sat. use? RCA?

I haven't bought one yet, but the website for the XM Commander also says 3.5 mm mini audio.

The cleanest install I've been able to think up is this:

Jazzy -> male-to-female 3.5mm extender cord -> 3.5 mm male-to-XM cord

or

Jazzy -> male-to-female 3.5mm extender cord -> 3.5 mm male-to-iPod cord

If I mount the extender cord jack inside my armrest and route the XM cord to there as well, I can plug in XM (looking totally stock) or put the iPod in my cupholder iPod stand and plug it in using the little armrest cable cutout.

Has anyone come up with a nice way of securing the cable to the Jazzy? I don't expect it to pull out, since the other end will be mounted in a panel, but I'd like to be more cautious.

now if only I could find a external display that was red

How about the roadyxt or the skyfi?

what else do I need to buy to use this with my iPod? i want to be able to charge my iPod in the car, so what type of cable do I need to get?

-Nick

As you might guess, there are lots of ways to do this.

Simple solution: If you go with a 1/8" male to 1/8" male for audio, then you can use any type of auto-charger you want. Of course there's some thought that the audio out of the headphone jack doesn't sound as good as the line out of the dock connector. (Some people can hear the difference, some people can't.)

Also there's the all-in-ones:

http://sik.com/imp.php

OR

http://www.monstercable.com/computer/productPageComputer.asp?pin=2132

They charge the iPod and also have a 1/8" female audio out jack. Use a 1/8" male to 1/8" male from there to the Jazzy.

Any solution that includes charging the iPod runs the risk of ground loop noise. If you are concerned, you can either try it first and go back and redo it if there is, or play it safe and start with one of the PAC SNI-1/3.5 Noise Filters from Crutchfield

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Hw05sCh...50&I=127SNI135

YEP.

Hope this is the same cable:

http://www.cables4computer.com/products/individualItem.asp?groupcode=I3441

I think I am about to be a Jazzy convert - I had been thinking about the Metra wired FM modulation so-called "solution".

I have even found a perfect line-out cable for the iPod. See my post about it here on the retractable cable thread.

Lastly, I discovered the PAC SNI-1/3.5 Noise Filter at Crutchfield:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Hw05sChjULT/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=181150&I=127SNI135

You can plug it directly into the Jazzy mod and plug any 3.5mm into it!