AWD-Turbo

Her is a quick (and maybe stupid) question. Would I damage anything by useing a stage 2 R/T map without any modifications. I know I would not get the potential of the map without at least a downpipe. I was just curious.

If you don’t have any engine mods, that’s what cobb stage 1 is for. You will make more power with cobb stage 1 on an otherwise stock engine than with stage 2.

Have you done dyno comparisons of the Cobb and PDX AP maps? What performance gains can be expected over the Cobb maps?

I doubt PDX would write a direct comparison of their maps to COBB’s

I don’t think you can compare the actual dyno numbers from cobb vs pdx.

Using the before and after number from each site to calculate horsepower and torque gains should make for a valid comparison though.

“Stage 2” maps

PDX (uppipe, turboback)

before after % gained

HP 191 245 28%

TQ 190 275 45%

COBB (turboback)

before after % gained

HP 196.3 237.7 21%

TQ 219 285.5 30%

Some of PDX’s gains are from the uppipe, and maybe some are from being tuned at a lower elevation. I’m interested in the PDX 1.5T because that is the hardware path I plan to go down (UP, DP, TMIC), and I live at the approximately the same elevation as Portland.