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    TGV Deletes Question

    in Fourth Generation Legacy (2005 - 2009)

    Posted · Edited by zangado1

    I have an 05 GT. Im ready to buy the "top feed" IAG TGV replacements knowing that the "Side Feed" are an issue later down the road with tuning. Question is the Phenolic Spacer set with the Nitrile Gaskets... Am I getting the 3mm or 8mm? I am bolting on a Blouch 440 XT with a GS TMIC...Thanks

    Official Lowered Outback Thread V2

    in Outback Photos

    Posted

    3/4" on the H Techs is flat, no rake on my OB. 1" would be a slight rake. A little rake is a popular set up due to how much junk in the trunk the wagons can carry.

     

     

    KTA124 is the best way (toe & camber), easiest to install for a DIY, but most expensive to buy, and trickiest to align.

    KCA399 is the cheap way, yet hardest to install (press out/in), no toe control, just camber. Most shops will miss this adjust-ability if you don't point it out.

     

     

    You'll need one or the other.

    Ok cool..I had Tein H Techs on my older wagon and they were great. Also had paranoid fabrication 3/4" saggy butt spacers and the car sat level. I don't tow or haul stuff so that 3/4" will work. I will go for the KTA124 the money is not an issue but I want it all done at once so its over. Still about the same price as a decent set of BC Coil overs if you add up the KYB's H Techs and KTA 124 kit. But this is a daily driver that will see winter so coils are going to rust and seize over time. Pretty sure this LGT KYB set up is best for what im looking to do with the car. Thanks...

    Official Lowered Outback Thread V2

    in Outback Photos

    Posted · Edited by zangado1

    So it sounds like I will go with the 05-09 LGT KYB's and eitherTein H Tech H&R or Swift. Now for the spacers 3/4 or 1" to prevent the "Saggy Butt"? Will I need the whiteline rear camber/control arm (kit KTA124) or is that just for guys dropping their Outback's to the ground against their cars natural height with coil overs or is that for shock/strut lowering too? Thanks

    Official Lowered Outback Thread V2

    in Outback Photos

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    Question about KYB's with Tein H Tech or H&R's on an 06 Outback:

     

    Im reading that the KYB's for 00-04 Outbacks are a little stiffer than the 05-09's so some guys go with the 00-04 either all the way around or just in the rear on the 05-09 Outback. But im looking to lower my Outback so it seems like the 05-09 Legacy GT KYB's are what I need to apply but not sure that there wont be any other rear suspension mods involved to keep the camber and toe in tact without buying the Whiteline kit. Not interested in coil overs since its a daily driver and winters here in Pennsylvania will destroy them over time. Im almost positive that rear saggy but spacers will be needed either 3/4 or 1" but thats why I am running this topic buy you guys who have dropped Outbacks. Thanks....

    Official Lowered Outback Thread V2

    in Outback Photos

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    Looks like there are two ways to go on my 06 OB to lower it. Either struts/springs or Coil overs. It's my DD so its going to see winter weather here in Pennsylvania. The question is can I throw a set of KYB's and Tein or H&R's on it with some saggy but spacers and be done with it. Or if I grab a set of the BC Coil's specific for the OB will that be a better application? Where I am going with this question is is it a plug and play or from reading on here is the Upper Control Arm need to be addressed? I understand the bump stops must be remover because of their height and replaced with LGT wagon versions. I really don't want to get into too much. I just went through a full suspension replacement on my 05 LGT with Whiteline and Fortune 500's including new aluminum LCA. I am not looking for slammed either just an inch or more of wheel gap would be preferred.. Thanks

    Compilation Of Available Grills

    in Exterior/Aesthetic

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    I bought the Grim Speed Hella horn bracket that is a universal piece for all Subies. I mounted it on my LGT and I went to install my horns on the bracket and no matter where I place the horns in the slots the horns are pressed up right against the back of the grill. I can't bend the bracket backwards because then the wiring hits the radiator. Looks like I don't have a choice but to buy an aftermarket grille that will make room for the Hellas.

    Struts/Shocks Upgrade Ideas?

    in Suspension/Brakes

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    A good cheap setup i would suggest is the 01fronts w 05 rears h tech and a rear sway bar. That will give you a pretty well balanced set up that will still be comfortable on rough roads

     

    Sounds like from reading that even the sedans need the "saggy butt" spacers regardless of which springs you put on.

    Struts/Shocks Upgrade Ideas?

    in Suspension/Brakes

    Posted · Edited by zangado1

    The only spring meant to be paired with kyb is the oem springs. If you get springs with the same rates as the oem they will technically be a matched spring, however the performance and handling comes from the added stiffness not the ride heigh. The ride height helps a little but no where near as much as the spring rates and dampening.

     

    There arnt a lot of strut options for these cars there is oem/kyb and tjere is bilstein and koni. The koni is adjustable but thats not the same thing as a mached suspension it only allows you to adjust to personal preference which may not be ideal for the springs they are mated to. The bilstein however is able to be rebuilt/revalved to any spring you want, they charge $75 each to perform this procedure and it requires mailing them in and waiting.

     

    If you want a true mached suspension the only real option is either spec b suspension which offers no drop but handles great and rides like stock

    Or get some bilstiens spec b or HD and have bilstein match them to the spring of your choice just be ready to provide the spring rates for them.

     

    If you want to do a drop and a semi matched setup your best bet is h tech paired with 05 kyb rear and 01-04 kyb fronts the h tech are slightly stiffer front springs with the rear same as oem. And the 01-04 kyb are stiffer so that is the closest you will get for a budget suspension that rides comfortable as well as handles noticeably better then stock

     

    Ps. The the suspension only dictates confidence and feel. The actuall cornering speed will come down to the tires. You can corner at tje same speed no matter what suspension is on the car but the stock one will be scary and the performance set up will be confidence inspired ;-)

     

    Thanks for your detailed reply on this. I understand that the KYB Excel-G are a slight upgrade from the base KYB "white gas adjust" that are a basic replacement for most cars. I am interested in about an inch drop in a spring application that would eliminate some body roll and help in the cornering and wallowing that the car has now. The squatting at hard acceleration is also an issue but then again these are the OEM struts and shocks with 103.000 on them. I am looking for the same type performance I am getting out of my 95 BK that is a great all around ride with a lowered stance and gets tight when I crank on the wheel while cornering. That application is KYB GR-2's and Tein H-Tech's along with a Primitive Racing upper strut sway bar on that car which is my daily driver. So im really not interested in dealing with the Koni insert hassle or the top hat issues with the Bilstein or the prices. By the time it is all said and done with either the Koni or Bilstein including the springs you could have bought a set of entry level Coil Overs. So I really would like to use the KYB Excel-G's but use an aftermarket lowering spring that is not too aggressive to take away from the suspension travel or give you bump stop issues either. I also have plans in adding the upper strut sway bar and a front and rear sway bar in time after this strut shock and spring addition has been addressed. This 05 LGT is not my daily driver so im being patient with these mods and reading and trying to mod it little by little to enjoy it over time. One more question...The 01-04 KYB Excel-G's for the fronts are they for a LGT or a standard Legacy or it doesn't matter? And also you have a wagon and not a sedan? And where did that application come from on the forum because I did not catch that through my readings on here. thanks again for your reply...

    Struts/Shocks Upgrade Ideas?

    in Suspension/Brakes

    Posted · Edited by zangado1

    Seems like the KYB Excel-G's are the best for a daily driver. The problem that I am finding is the Struts/Shocks either Bilstein Koni or the KYB need to be matched with the appropriate lowering spring to get the correct suspension set up for spirited daily driving. Since I am interested in the KYB Excel-G's it would figure that the best match for them was the Eibach Pro-Kit or the Epic Springs or ION Springs and they are discontinued or not available. The only lowering springs available are Rallitech (which are made by Swift) Tein S-Tech or H-Tech's and H & R's. From what im reading is the S-Tech are garbage and are too low and don't offer any travel so it would be a bump stop nightmare. And the H-Tech's could possibly give your sedan a "saggy but". So now im at the decision with either H & R's or the Rallitech/Swift's. Would like to hear from some KYB Excel-G owners and which springs to choose from those two I mentioned for their LGT Sedan since the options are slim at this point in the game for a 11 year old car.

    best legacy gt year?

    in Site Polls

    Posted · Edited by zangado1

    I like my 05 as well. I hate the rear bumpers with the reflectors on the newer models. I just hate my rear wing because it looks like it came off of a Maxxima. I just wish we could have the rear JDM wiper. They look so bad ass and probably are functional as hell.
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