LawGT

Saw two silver Legacies today. First was a silver GT , no tint, heading west on I-90 between 53 and 59. I would have been the pearl white 300ZX travelling in a pack of about 20 G35's and 350Z's.

 

Hm, I was traveling along I90 yesterday in the late afternoon (5-6:30...I can't remember) going to visit the folks. Mine does not have a spoiler...

perhaps this is i smy first....don't you love to cherry pop?

Silver GT on 90 West Today around 8.driver was on the phone

Whereabouts on 90w? I was driving on 90/94 from downtown to the Western exit (to go to Costco) at that time... but I try never to talk on celly whule driving...

After my mishap last night I have decided to get new tyres. The stock tyres I have are the Bridgestone Potenza 92C with only 5,000km on the clock. They are crap in dry as well as in snow.

By reading the above posts it looks like Goodyear Ealge F1 GS-D3 (215/45 ZR17) is the answer. Any further comments in this regard will be appreciated. I will post photos of the rim damage I sustained in the photo section.

Thanks.

Not to take this thread way too off topic (you may want to post your question elsewhere), the F1's are summer tires. If that is what you are looking for, go ahead. If you need A/S tires, I can recommend the 960AS. There is a whole thread in here dedicated to them, and my lengthy review in this very thread.

Happy trails.

Hahahaha....

I think you are joking, but can't really tell bec. i don't know you guy's cars... me= clueless. Was there waiting for the bus bec I could not leave work ealry enough to get to Evanston Subaru to get my car back from oil change and aligment...

I wanted to know everything in this thread . Good pics and info.

Now I know that there is absolutely no way that I would ever do this myself. I'll pay a professional for the install...

See pics of tires here...I'm an idiot...at first I cound't figure out how to post pics...then I couldn't figure out (and still can't, so if you can teach me I'd appreciate it) how to resize them to the site's minimum, and finally settled on photobucket. Why is is that I can't paste a pic to this site?

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LawGT...update?

Not yet. I haven't driven it much since the weekend. Drove today to work (Downtown Chicago) a whooping 2.5-3 miles:icon_bigg. No flatspotting. I'll try to take pics tonight and take a joy ride up and down I94:icon_mrgr . I do know that these tires ride MUCH better (in the comfort department) than the re92's. Ripples in the pavement that used to make my dash squeak, now are barely noticeable.

I'll be taking a roadtrip to Minneapolis this weekend, and will post a much more detailed review then.

Placeholder for the newly bought 960 AS, 225/45/17 on stock rims... Only have 50 miles or so on them. Will post full review later...

Preliminary:

Bought at discount tire, LaGrange, IL (just off I55). Paid $604 total, tax and installation included. They price-matched the TR price and bought my RE92's for $100 total. Need to play some with the pressures. Was running 35/33 and it felt a little sloppy. Ride def. better than the re92's. The bumps in the road get absorbed better. I then bumped up the preassures to 37/35 (it was 37 degrees out) and the ride felt a bit too stiff for me. Hot pressures were 41/39 when I measured them after a 25 mi hwy drive home...I think its a bit too much. I'll try 36/34 today. The tires felt a bit "squirelly" on the hwy (as moving back and forth on the lane, like been buffeted by high winds). It could be that the tires are new and still have not settled. The RE92 did the same for me when they were new, but after couple of thousand miles it went away. Or it could be the hwy surface, not sure. THe 225/45's look good on the rim, only a *hint* of a bulge...not sure if this is good or not. I'll take pics.

Random note, when I was waiting for the installation, I read the new road& track. They had a nice small comparo of 4 tires (including the 960) on a miata in the 225/45/17 size on 17 x 7 rims. The 960 was very close in performace to the all tires tested except some kuhmo race gumballs. impressive.

EDIT: here is the link: http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=4228

EDIT: (11/20/06)

#1) What tire are you offering for review (size, model, type (summer, A/s, winter, race, etc), price paid, miles driven on tires, etc): Bridgestone 960 AS 225/45/17 on stock rims; paid $604 out the door installation and tax included. Driven about 900 miles on them thus far. Filled at 36 F and 34 R PSI.

#2) What is your geographic location: Chicago, IL

#3) What types of driving events if any (Track, AutoX, Commute , etc): Commute and "regular" driving. No track or auto X.

#4) Percent of highway vs. city driving: 50/50

#5) Tires used previously: RE 92's, had about 9000 mi when changed for the 960's

#6) Your review and personal comments (Dry, wet, and snow, if applicable. Also, please compare to other tires used):

I took a roadtrip to Minneapolis MN over the weekend which allowed me to put about 850 mi on the tires. First gripe: THEY DO FLAT SPOT! I arrived in MN and left my car parked outside form Friday to Sunday w/o moving it. Day temps were in the low 40's with night temps in the mid 20's. On Sunday when I took off to drive home the car felt like it was riding on square tires for about 1-2 miles, then it was fine. I was not too happy. When my car sat in my covered garage back home it never flatspotted before, but I don't thinkn my garage's temp has gotten into the lower 20's yet. Let's see. Needles to say I'm very annoyed by this.

Comfort, Ride, Noise, etc

Moving on. The comfort of the 960's is better than the 92's. Hwy expansion joints and other road imprefections get absorbed by the tires better than the 92's, becoming almost imperceptible. One still feels it, but barely. Id' rate the comfort of the re92's as a 5-6 and the 960's as a 9. Not sure if the difference is the 225 size or the tire. I think it's a little of both. The comfort is increased while the tire still retains great "feel" for the road...can't really explain it, but the tires still feel very connected to the road w/o being harsh. I did not feel any tramlining (my definition is that feeling of the car moving back and forth w/in the lane as if buffeted by strong winds). There was a small vibration from 70-80mph, that went away above 90. I was annoyed by this. I'll take it back to the shop for another balancing, since I do not think the vibration is the tire itself but rather a poor balancing job. I'll report back if the vibration persist. Otherwise the tire was very stable feeling well into triple digit speeds (won't tell you exactly ). Also, there was a very slight pitch or whistling sound over certain grooves surfaces. Noticed it more over concrete hwys. Not exactly sure if it was the tires or windnoise. I think it was the tires since I did not hear that same noicse with the re92's.

Dry:

The tires GRIP like mad on the dry. I took on/off ramps at hwys at double the posted speed limits without even a hint of squeel or the uneasy feeling I got with the re92's when they were giving up grip. Simply awsome grip. Turn and accelerate and the car just hunkered down and went. Very very satisfied. I'd rate dry grip for the re92's as a 5.5-6 (out of 10, 10 being highest) and these are a 9. I do not say ten because Im sure a dedicated summer may have better grip, but I just have not experienced summers on my car before. So 9 it is.

Wet:

Got to experience some hwy and city driving on wet roads. The grip was literally 99% as good as the grip on dry. Stunning. I was taking sharp 90 degree turns on city streets (by entering the 80-90 degree turn in 2nd gear at about 3-3.5K RPM'S then smashing the gas before the turn and during the turn) TRYING to kick out my rear end like I could before in the 92's, with no luck. I tried but could not get the back end to kick out at sane speeds (surely if I tried to be crazy with the entry speeds I could have gotten it to kick out). I then found a large empty parking area by the United Center, still soaking wet by the still falling rain. I started to go around in circles (like the mags do to test lateral G's) and the grip was outstanding. Seriously as if it was dry. Only when I really tried to smash the gas could I get the tail to begin to slide a little bit or feel like it was about to slide, but it was very progressive, and for me, the grip limits were very high. I also did a couple of "panic" stop testing on the wet parking lot from about 40 mph. The abs did not engage, or if it did, I could not feel it. VERY secure feeling when braking. On the hwy there was no hydroplaining to speak of. I'd rate the re92 wet grip as a 2-3 and the 960's as a 10 (scores relative to the re92's, and not btw dry and wet. B/w dry and wet both will then be a 9). Yes, that much of an improvement.

Snow:

Nothing yet, will update when it snows here in Chitown.

Overall I'm very pleased. Not happy about the flatspotting. Will wait to see if it happens to me when my car is parked in the garage and the temps begin to drop. Also, I'm hoping that the vibration I felt at 70-80 was a poor balancing job and not the tires themselves. I'll report back on these two items.

To be continued......

EDIT: 11/27/06:

Vibration is gone after balancing. No flatspotting while in my garage....if there is, I don't feel it whiel lugging around in the city.

Speaking of reviews and ratings I don't know if you have seen it yet but Consumer Reports just did a review of H and V rated all-season tires as well as "performance" winter tires. They tested them for 16,000 miles each and did what seems to me to be one heck of a job. It is in the most recent issue, November 2006. You may or may not agree with their ratings but it's a good read with a fair amount of information and some food for thought. Can't say they've ever really steered me wrong when it's come to buying stuff they've tested.

I bought the mag at costco over the weekend. I'll try to scan and post tomorrow. For the V rated performace all season, the Contiextreme finished second from last. I think they used 205/55/16 size for the V rated tests. This alone shook me up re my tire choice... If I recall the michelin pilot AS finished towards the top.

Folks,

I think it's a good idea to have one thread with all tire reviews for our cars, like NASIOC does it. There are tons of reviews in here, but I think the information will be more useful for everyone if it is located in one thread.

Please Sticky so that folks may have all tire info along with Keefe's great Wheel/Tire FAQ. For all posts, please answer the following questions. (I'm still rocking the stockers, so I can't post any helpful info at this time). thanks

#1) What tire are you offering for review (size, model, type (summer, A/s, winter, race, etc), price paid, miles driven on tires, etc):

#2) What is your geographic location:

#3) What types of driving events if any (Track, AutoX, Commute , etc):

#4) Percent of highway vs. city driving:

#5) Tires used previously:

#6) Your review and personal comments (Dry, wet, and snow, if applicable. Also, please compare to other tires used):

Black LGT Van Buren and Franklin Tint f/b with an SPT sticker in the rear - Law?

Nope, mine is a silver. I sometimes do drive to work (just as an excuse to take roxy (yes, that her name) out of the garage) and park at the union station lot (500 w. Jackson).

Btw, do you live in the city?