bronconia
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So, when the guy who purchased mine first called me, he was trying to compare pricing with this one: http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/651288169/overview/
Looks pretty clean, nice low miles too!
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Another one popped up in the area!
Looks pretty nice, 1 owner, local Colorado car. No navi but it looks super clean
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In addition to that Autocheck they list..I ran a quick Carfax, looks like pretty solid history from the second owner. Serviced at the dealer (13 oil changes), shows a 30k service but no 60k.
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Saw that one, and he has a stock photo in there from an STI...kind of weird!
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Good to see another 5th gen owner in the 303, sad to see that it's on the market. GLWS but if you find that you want / need to remove some of the aftermarket goodies, hit me up. I'm local, have stock parts (if needed) and would be interested in a few bits.
For sure! I'll keep you posted if anything gets left behind! What part of town are you in? And if you haven't already, you should check out the Legacy Club of Colorado page on FB...again, not very many 5th gen owners, but more local legacy peeps for sure.
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That's Bronconia's car. He must have fallen in love with that Audi he mentioned a while back.
HA! No, although that was a SWEET Audi
I ordered my new 3.6r Outback last month, it'll be here middle of November. Sad days!
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That is an awesome explanation as to how things work at a dealer and the whys. Thanks! Good luck with your sales!
My attitude with car buying has always been to give my business when I feel good about the situation period if it doesn't feel right no harm in waiting there will always be another car to buy.
No problemo! I'm a big believer in education...car buying shouldn't be shrouded in a bunch of mystery!
That's a great attitude to have, and it's one of the reasons I love what I do so much. I don't HAVE to sell my clients a vehicle. I work off of referrals, not walk ins, so there isn't any pressure, and it (almost every single time) ends up with a customer that gets to take as much time as they need. Good on ya for being able to walk away!
If you ever have questions, feel free to hit me up in a PM
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At a dealer loss or Subaru loss? ( I'm really curious about this, because I know you know what you are talking about). When I said arbitrary I meant its value isn't really meaningful to how much the dealer pays for a car. I understand it's not pulled out of thin air. But my understanding is what a dealer pays for a car has many variables including sales volume, incentives from Subaru, time of the year, new model delivery...
When I see the words "invoice price" in my limited business to business dealings that was always actual cost to the business. In car sales and probably many other sales it is just another number it seems.
Ammcinnis covered it pretty well!
Your understanding is correct, there are many variables that go into the actual cost. Dealerships that are just giving away cars - high volume - are typically going to have bigger kickbacks/bonuses to pass along to you. I can't speak to other industries (clothing, restaurants, etc), but I don't think I've ever known the "actual" cost of an electronic item, clothing item, or restaurant dish that I've purchased!
In terms of the loss, it's a dealer loss. This isn't unique to a specific dealer either. The vehicles you see on a lot have been bought and paid for by that particular dealer at a set price (which, again, has many factors including kickbacks from volume sales, incentives by region for that month, etc etc), and from the moment they are unloaded off of a truck, it's a ticking time bomb of money loss. If the floor costs (what it costs per vehicle/per day to take up space there) are high enough, and the car sits for long enough, then you reach a point where the dealer has LOST money. Even if they sell it for a value above their initial cost, they've taken a "loss" because it's cost them more to store it there than they had in it for profit to begin with. At that point, they know they have a loser, and will do whatever it takes (typically) to stop the bleeding. I.E., DEEP discounts, free accessories, etc etc.
Something to keep in mind though, even those "losers" are going to help them recoup bonus money at the end of the month if their volume metric has been reached.
Lastly, keep in mind, everyone LOVES to fixate on the price of a car when determining value (or "how good of a deal they received"). There are multiple parts to a deal, including financing rates, your trade, accessories, warranties, gap insurance...plenty of places for us to make money. That's why the high pressure model works so well for a lot of these dealerships. Get you down there for the price, end up making more on the back end of the deal because you've reached a point where you just want to get the hell out of there and are ready to sign just about anything.
The GOOD news, is that there a lot of Dealerships out there who are moving away from this model. It's become much more consumer friendly.
Anywho, sorry for the bouncing around here, I'm actually trying to sell some cars myself today
Hopefully that helps a bit!OH, one more quick thing... the reason the Subaru VIP pricing is, in my opinion, a great deal for people...if you read the fine print, it's a set price (very fair, good savings), set financing (the dealer can't mark it up), and the dealer still gets to make money (they get a set dollar amount back FROM Subaru on the vip deals, because of the fixed pricing).
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That isn't true at all. The invoice is a vin-specific representation of the car as it's built and shipped. It doesn't change, and it isn't an arbitrary value. And yes, they WILL sell a car at no profit, and sometimes sell cars at a loss to move product. It's obviously not the norm, but it happens more than you'd think.
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Hahaha maaaaaaybe ;]
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Hope all is well Dave! Still absolutely LOVING my tune, big shoutout to you my friend.
Question for you, is it a good idea to log anything, and send the info to you? It's been almost a year, and it still runs like the day you tuned it, but I didn't know if it would be something that needs "maintenance". Let me know what you think!
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FYI the style is listed as unknown in cars.com Every other GT is listed as either 2.5GT limited or 2.5 GT limited.
I'll make sure to let them know, good catch!
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It looks like it has some damage to the bottom of the front passenger side of bumper cover. It appears that fog light is missing as well.
Exactly right! There's also a very small amount of light hail on the rear deck lid, and a bit of a scrape on the rear bumper passenger side. The lid/ light/ bumper are being repaired, front bumper is not. Also, new tires going on!
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Stable full of GT's! And a BRZ!!! Do eeeeeeet
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Nice low mileage find!
Right? The broker who took it in on trade was going to wholesale it to another dealer, and I was like HOLD UP haha. So, into our inventory it went!
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We just took this one in on trade http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/638596400/overview/#6
Driven by an older gentleman, pretty clean! I drove it home the other night...amazing how much different the bone stock version feels haha.
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This seems to be the exception. BBS LMs, RG-Rs, RS', etc. are roughly $1k per wheel. Even cast wheels like the CHs are still $500+ per wheel.
That's why I was a bit cautious...trying to do some more research to find out if there's a different process with these ones in particular.
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I've been drooling over wheels lately, what do you guys think of these two options:
Enkei Raijin -
BBS SR's
The BBS are about 4 pounds more per wheel, but as of right now I'm going more aesthetics over performance.
Thoughts?
I'll be keeping my current tires, Cooper RS3-A's 225/45/18. I dunno, for some reason I thought BBS wheels were typically a LOT more expensive, so I'm not sure that these are of the same quality.
EDIT: According to willtheyfit, the Enkei's have a bit more poke, which I like (both wheels will fit without any craziness for now), but I can't help feeling that the BBS's look like they came off of a VW.
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2011 Legacy 2.5 GT Limited
Age: 33
Profession: Auto Broker (hooray for small businesses!)
Location: Denver, CO
Subarus Owned: 85 GL Station Wagon (such a tank), 91 Legacy Wagon, 06 GT Limited, 13 3.6r, and now my current baby.
Mods:
Invidia Q300 TBE (catless)
Accessport
Custom Tune from Dave @ Cryotune (amazeballs)
Whiteline 22mm Rear Sway Bar
Perrin Shift Stop and Bushing
Milkjug Delete
Aesthetics:
Plasti Dipped Grill
Plasti Dipped Wheels
3M Carbon Fiber stripe
Swapped headlights from 2013 3.6r
Blacked out those headlights, wrapped the corners in 3M Carbon Fiber
6000k HID's
6000k Fogs
LED's on all interior lights as well as the license plate/running lights
Yakima rack system
10" Type R sub / 500 watt alpine mono amp
Broncos License Plates
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Had a few minutes before the superbowl party today
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Hey hey, you might want to check this thread out: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/my-new-oem-style-nav-arrived-today-236081.html
That particular owner seems to be pretty happy, and it LOOKS like a very straightforward DIY kind of job.
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Hey hey - If you get a call from a gentleman with an 08 (I think?) Sti, he's from me Passin your name whenever I get a chance!
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Mornin Dave!
Just wanted to throw some kudos your way...EVERY day that I drive my car, a smile is plastered to my face. Thanks again for a tune that has been incredibly fun and problem free!! I still tell everyone that owns a Subaru about you whenever the subject of performance comes up.
Hopefully that helps a bit!
5th Gen GT Finds
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Thanks! Yeah, once I put it on the bigger sites, my phone wouldn't stop ringing...I ended up getting pretty close to what I was asking, and the guy was stoked!