Autoevo Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Has anyone ever heard of pulling the engine to do a clutch job? I done quite a few clutch jobs before (never a subie) but i have never pulled an engine to do one. I heard through the grape vine that it is easier to pull the engine than to disconnect everything else associated with the tranny. Any input? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taskforcefreddy Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Never done one however had a buddy change mine out while I was overseas. He said it was one of the easier clutch jobs he's done. The bolts are very accessible. Not sure how he went about it but am positive he didn't pull the motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I think it's a wash. I replaced both recently, so obviously I removed the enigne first them the tranny. But when I do clutch next time I'll pull the tranny. It's one person job, while enigne really requires two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
987687 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Mine is slipping pretty bad, so I'm gonna do it soon. We are going to pull the engine because we don't have a lift. The person helping me out said that would be easier. I'll let you know how it goes. I'll post up some pics for your, according to your sig we have similar vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbite3360 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I'm replacing my clutch only because my engine is out already for something unrelated. Don't know how hard it is to do without removing the engine, but I'm sure it could be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
987687 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I'm replacing my clutch only because my engine is out already for something unrelated. Don't know how hard it is to do without removing the engine, but I'm sure it could be done. You'd have to drop the transmission, which would be a pain in the ass without a lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 ^ Eh, no. Jack stands and tranny jack work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbite3360 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Yeah, I know there have been people who have done this without taking out the engine. Someone whos done this though needs to chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autoevo Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 I will have to flat back this job because i don't have access to a lift. One line of thinking is that if there are any complications, i.e. seized flywheel bolts, it would be easier to address those issues if the engine were out of the car. BTW the car is a 95 legacy outback wagon. Not sure if that has any bearing on the complexity of the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
987687 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I have a 96 legacy sedan we are planning to pull the engine on soon, so I'll have more info on how that goes later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I will have to flat back this job because i don't have access to a lift. One line of thinking is that if there are any complications, i.e. seized flywheel bolts, it would be easier to address those issues if the engine were out of the car. BTW the car is a 95 legacy outback wagon. Not sure if that has any bearing on the complexity of the job. Yes and no. I had to drill out flywheel bolts (frigging dealer overtorqued the stupid torx plus bolts on 05 LGT), but I did it after stripping the engine to the bare shortblock on my kitched counter Drilling them with the engine dangling on a cherry picker would be a pain. Obviously you don't get access to the flywheel bolts with the enigne mounted on a stand. With engine in car and transmission out it would be ok (but still pain). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaos22B Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89485 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autoevo Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 I have a 96 legacy sedan we are planning to pull the engine on soon, so I'll have more info on how that goes later this week. Thanks for everyone for the input! I am not doing the R&R for a couple of weeks anyway. I figure i will replace the flywheel with a lighten one since i have everything apart. I would defiantly appreciate any info on your up coming r&r job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
987687 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Thanks for everyone for the input! I am not doing the R&R for a couple of weeks anyway. I figure i will replace the flywheel with a lighten one since i have everything apart. I would defiantly appreciate any info on your up coming r&r job. I'm replacing my flywheel too, but just with a stock one. I figured that I didn't know how it was treated for the 89,000 miles I didn't own the car, so replacing it is a good idea. I'm also replacing my rear main seal and throw out bearing while I'm in there. I can't wait to pull it all apart, it's going to be fun. And I'll make sure I have my camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsmith30132 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 You dont have to completly pull the engine out of the car just scoot it foward about 6 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsmith30132 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Well just for the flywheel and clutch, not sure about the rear main seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I read the other thread that you may be referring to as to pulling the engine. even if it were 1-2 hours faster....which it isn't... you have opened many normally closed systems. now you have to reconect coolent lines, burp the coolent system reconnect fuel lines reconnect electrical connectors each one of those things becomes a potential leak or other issue, not to mention that pulling an engine and then putting it back in is a great opportunity to scratch the paint badly or squish a brake fluid or PS fluid container or line it's just not a good idea unless it's a necessity My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autoevo Posted March 2, 2009 Author Share Posted March 2, 2009 I read the other thread that you may be referring to as to pulling the engine. even if it were 1-2 hours faster....which it isn't... you have opened many normally closed systems. now you have to reconect coolent lines, burp the coolent system reconnect fuel lines reconnect electrical connectors each one of those things becomes a potential leak or other issue, not to mention that pulling an engine and then putting it back in is a great opportunity to scratch the paint badly or squish a brake fluid or PS fluid container or line it's just not a good idea unless it's a necessity I would tend to agree. I was just trying to weigh out the time and ease benefits of the two. i think i will just pull the tranny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 dont forget to take pictures please... Do a little write up Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rony Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 If you have a lift, pull the tranny. If you have a garage and an engine lift, pull the engine forward 6". Personally doing it a few times moving the engine forword, I still prefer tranny removal. My Car vBGarage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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